Are immigrants good for a country's economy?

[Blondie]

Ki drámázik? Csak veled lehet erről a témáról beszélni, mással nem?

Csak velem.

[Teutone]

Purely based on shortterm not longterm economic development, id even say that Immigrants regardless of their skillsets or IQ boost the purchasing power and lower the wages which boosts profits. Thats why big corporation and capitalism encourage not just the free movement of goods but also free movement of human resources. Longterm I see things that could(dont have to) damage the economy but who cares, CEOs and shareholders of today dont think ahead of their lifespan.

At the end I had to accept and learn that being a geniue right winger and be intrested in the best for your ethnicity or your culture you need to be at least critical towards capitalism and liberalism in the economic and social aspect.

But that doesnt make me support a planned economy, competition and private ownership are essential when it comes to have a fair society just as much as having the government to intervene when the corporations greed tries to undermine the wellbeing of your society and people.

Thats the German way since Prussia and more so Bismarck anyway.

[JosephK]

It depends on (1) which country, (2) which immigrants, and (3) the nature of the economy.

[de Burgh II]

Educated or at the very least; highly skilled tradesmen that contribute to the economy. Moreover, these highly qualified immigrants should be non-criminal and are willing to fully assimilate into the dominant culture.

Not third world trash that seek to abuse the country's taxes or welfare system; in other words, vagabonds or criminalistic scum.

[Incal]

Depends on the numbers. If they are few, yes. If they allow everybody then it's chaotic.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

In small doses and as temporary skills bandaid while you fix the origin of the shortfall.

Immigration also helps the domestic population get an idea of the immigrant populations' nations and cultures. Like a sample pouch of shampoo.

What's happened in Europe has been senseless and mostly a result of decadent political tribalism. Especially by Left wing parties.


That's not been good for immigrants, immigrant communities or the various native populations.

They only beneficiaries have been the professional class. They make out like bandits. And they are the most internationalist of all population groups. They view the world as made up of various holiday and potential retirement destinations. They don't feel nationhood, theirs or others.

[gixajo]

Educated migrants have degree or a profession with many experience. These peoples are good for economy. The problem is the EU give citizenship to every illiterated beduin, i have never said i agree with it.

Ahelyett hogy itt drámázol, húzzál vissza a másik threadbe és érveljél baszod.

In reality, if some type of immigrants are the ones that are massively needed, they are precisely those who are going to be comfortable in jobs that require little academic training because in most European countries, qualified jobs are held by natives, and they are precisely the least "prestigious" and tough, those that the native population avoid occupying.

This is how it is in Spain, and I doubt that Hungary needs to import qualified people from abroad, because as far as I know Hungaryt is a country with a good educational level, which creates enough individuals with academic training and very acceptable professional qualifications.

An Ecuadorian engineer or a Moroccan biologist will not want to work for a long time in agricultural work in Spain, nor a philologist from Kosovo, or a Turkish architect cleaning toilets in Hungary.

It is my opinion on the clear matter, and without a doubt it is debatable in the nuances, but I think that in general, it is the one that is closest to the European reality.

The number and type of immigrants must be accepted according to the needs of each country and each moment.

And by "it depends on which immigrant", I mean that they must have a mentality or personality that allows them to easily adapt to the customs and type of society they arrive at.

It would be best if only people were allowed to come on demand for real needs, and that the stay was extendable, but not indefinite. In other words, the stay is intended as temporary, but the possibility of obtaining nationality remains open in some specific cases.

Things have been horribly wrong done from the start.

[Incal]

In reality, if some type of immigrants are the ones that are massively needed, they are precisely those who are going to be comfortable in jobs that require little academic training because in most European countries, qualified jobs are held by natives, and they are precisely the least "prestigious" and tough, those that the native population avoid occupying.

This is how it is in Spain, and I doubt that Hungary needs to import qualified people from abroad, because as far as I know Hungaryt is a country with a good educational level, which creates enough individuals with academic training and very acceptable professional qualifications.

An Ecuadorian engineer or a Moroccan biologist will not want to work for a long time in agricultural work in Spain, nor a philologist from Kosovo, or a Turkish architect cleaning toilets in Hungary.

Indeed. The factories won't hire Nobel prize winners lol

[Fruslay]

Even globalist trash like The Economist is starting to admit that immigrants are a burden to our countries. So imagine what's like in reality.

[Universe]

Even globalist trash like The Economist is starting to admit that immigrants are a burden to our countries. So imagine what's like in reality.

Thank you for the picture.
I always thought Denmark was kind of based (by NW euro standards).
Eastern Europeans = "Other non-western immigrants"?