[Poll] Do you support Ukraine or Russia ?

[Hexachordia]

I just believe Russia needs to be defeated in the right way, any other way is a win for Russia. I know russian leaders deliberately toss soldiers there to die for a strategy, that is just as evil as the western forces which want to kill people for the same strategy. I still do not believe that the west truly want to defeat Russia politically, they just want to play a bloody drama to deceive the world and then trade Ukraine to Russia. Zelensky is probably right to pressurize the west to support them, nobody should trust either Russia and the west, same scum, different skinsack. I said Ukraine will never join EU, lets see.

[Sylvanas]

I support Europe and poor manipulated people, not NATO or crazy rich organizations and politicians. US is in war with Russia in Ukraine, and we pay the price...

[de Burgh II]

Neither; I support the people/common citizens being used on both sides (Russia and Ukraine) as cannon fodder for the deep states' interest. In other words, both sides are being used as unwilling pawns in their psychopathic, political game. There are no "winners" in wars; there is only unnecessary suffering and misery for both sides. As well as biased propaganda being used in the mainstream media and the history books to justify their criminally inclined, elitist degeneracy and interests. The only "future" that is apparent from this war will be further escalation of war and unnecessary destruction just to fuel the elitists'/Corporate pocket money and political interests.

[papa diddy pop]

US companies get paid by the US government (American tax dollars). The expectation isn't that Ukraine will ever pay the US back monetarily. It's not like these death merchant companies write a bill to the Ukrainian government.



Do you think Ukrainian generals are stupid? The Ukrainian military will be slaughtered in the open field whether they have US tanks or whatever or don't. Urban warfare is the best option because urban warfare is the most difficult for an invading force to face. That they're losing doesn't change that fact. They were always going to lose if they fought on their own. This was understood by everyone with any sense on day one. This is why this war is a tragedy. NATO/US know the Ukrainian military can't win but they push them forward anyway and hence why I said, "NATO/US will fight until the last Ukrainian."



Why not in 2014 when there was a US led coup of the Ukrainian government? A legitimate government fell to an illegitimate government and before you say "but it was controlled by Russia!" the prior elections were monitored by international obervers and deemed a fair election. Under your reasoning, Putin waited 8 years to invade because... ????



I'm going to stop here because you clearly do not know what you're talking about and I'm not wasting my time with someone who doesn't even know the basics. Yes, look at what Russia did to Georgia. A nation that was basically a NATO member without being a NATO member just like Ukraine.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_38988.htm

Why would NATO care about shitty little Georgia? They don't other than surrounding Russia. This is a recipe for disaster and naturally Russia acted. Once again, if Russia or China or another nation antagonistic to the US had the same relationship that NATO/US had with Georgia in our hemisphere there would be hell to pay.

You also showed ignorance in your previous post when you said, "Well, why not attack the Baltic states. They have missiles also. The reason for invading Ukraine is nonsense." How does someone not know that if you attack a nation that is a NATO member that there will be all out war with NATO?

I just don't have the patience. You need to at least know the basics.



It's this type of question that reminds me why I shouldn't bother having a serious discussion.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm using something called reason and objectivity, which most forum posters here have no ability to do. If you switch Mexico for Ukraine and Russia for the US the same thing would happen because nations look out for their own interests. This is a needlessly stupid war that could have been avoided if the US didn't meddle in Ukraine. It's as simple as that.

Anodyne, Sometime I feel you are a single digit IQ, where did I said that Ukraine had a chance on an open field against Russia ? You're naive to think that people that hates Russia should just surender... it's not NATO forcing them at all, like I said look at Afghanistan, listen to Ukrainian soldiers.

And also I never implied that Russia should invade the baltic states, I am well aware that If a NATO state is attacked, every members should defend it. Before questioning my knowledge your low IQ mind failed to understand that I was just saying that Otan missile being in the Baltic state, so why would Russia would be afraid of NATO missiles in Ukraine ?

And you know even withtout Ukraine or the Baltic states, NATO can crush Russia anytime they want to ! So I don't understand why Russia should be scared of NATO missiles in Ukraine, like I said it's just a casus beli that only single digit IQ will believe in. Reality is that Baltic states would have already been invaded by Russia if they weren't part of NATO.

[Sylvanas]

Honest question, how do you "crush" country (Russia) with nuclear weapons across Europe?

[Dick]

so it seems like certain forces want the daily headlines to match the Book of Revelation.

They're trying real hard to unleash the four horsemen, eh?

[Anglo-Celtic]

They're trying real hard to unleash the four horsemen, eh?

They are. The Klaus Schwab crowd ride jackasses, though.

[Dick]

They are. The Klaus Schwab crowd ride jackasses, though.

The Zio-masons would love to see a mass genocide of christians

[Anglo-Celtic]

The Zio-masons would love to see a mass genocide of christians

I'm cool with most Jews. I'm not on that particular crazy train.

[Lemon Kush]

You make it sound like its a football match or something.