Greeks dont cluster with S.Italians

[Anaximander]

Greeks are geneticaly closer to Central Italians and phenotypically closer to Serbs and Bulgarians than they are with S.Italians

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[Dentist]

What's the source of this PCA?

[Anaximander]

What's the source of this PCA?

I found it online, do u have a different one?

[Renekton]

Hhmm interesting

[kingmob]

It would help your argument if you presented a PCA where the Greek cluster doesn't overlap with the S. Italian one.

[Anaximander]

It would help your argument if you presented a PCA where the Greek cluster doesn't overlap with the S. Italian one.

The core of it doesnt. it is closer to Tuscany and Bergamo.

[kingmob]

The core of it doesnt. it is closer to Tuscany and Bergamo.

The little bit where it's overlapping with the Tuscans, it's also where Albanians are at.

You just posted the ol' MS-Paint version of K15, like it's some sort of grande revelation or something. The reason the Albanian reference is missing is because in its original form, eurogenes calculators lacked such reference samples in their lists.

The Greeks who are the closest to Turscany are the ones who plot right on top of the Albanians.

The rest are not close.

[Anaximander]

The little bit where it's overlapping with the Tuscans, it's also where Albanians are at.

You just posted the ol' MS-Paint version of K15, like it's some sort of grande revelation or something. The reason the Albanian reference is missing is because in its original form, eurogenes calculators lacked such reference samples in their lists.

The Greeks who are the closest to Turscany are the ones who plot right on top of the Albanians.

The rest are not close.

U can see on the picture below,Greeks cluster with Tuscans and N.Italians more than they do with Sicilians.


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[kingmob]

Sicilians and South Italians are shown as different categories.

On your PCA, Greeks (x) are actually almost right on top of S. Italians (dots) and distinct from Tuscany (squares).

If you'd zoom out the difference would be even more pronounced.

What you claim has absolutely no basis on reality and cannot be substantiated by any study or other calculator whatsoever.

Give it up, man, it's so pathetic that OWD of yours, it's sad.

Even the most northern Greek group has a WANA shift that is completely absent in groups such as North Italians.

Greeks and North Italians (or Iberians for that matter) are not comparable, the former shift to the East and the South-East, as a product of thousands of years old processes that involved the exchange of genes.

If you want to pretend that you are some sort of Western Euro like North Italians are, and humiliate yourself in the process, by all means feel free to do so, but, trust me, it's impossible to find the basis for such a claim in genetics.

This is why the Greek community of anthro-posters is such a long standing joke (not just on this forum). Your complexes are really a pitiful display of character.

[catgeorge]

All mainland Greeks have some form of South Italian