Finland will join to NATO and Sweden follows (same timeschedule)

[Sebastianus Rex]

The absolute hatred of the European establishment towards the Russians is so pronounced, that it would even trump the Scandinavian pride. They'll do what Turkey demands, they'll even kiss Erdogan's feet if only it would give them a chance to "piss off Putin".

Russophobia has become mainstream accepted, politically correct.

While individuals with SS flags/symbols and Nazi tattoos are freedom fighters, they've turned their created own world perception upside down and it's OK...is there really hope for the collective West?

Btw, the vaccination against the monkey smallpox (monkeypox) has started...

https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...pe-2022-05-19/


Oops....3 months ago....call me paranoid I don't give a f.... anymore.

[Finnish Swede]

The absolute hatred of the European establishment towards the Russians is so pronounced, that it would even trump the Scandinavian pride. They'll do what Turkey demands, they'll even kiss Erdogan's feet if only it would give them a chance to "piss off Putin".

Loki, you're already old man. You should know better ...

No way Sweden (or Finland) will send Kurds to Turkey just like that (snapping fingers). It is against our own laws. It is against human rights of West (International agreements). It is against EU policy. Sweden and Finland will study possible accusations of Turkey, even person by person ... and will give responses. But those will be done and valued based on laws of those 2 countries (and laws of EU). Not via laws (or real life practices) of Turkey. Sweden and Finland can not and will not throw all to toilet just as Turkey might be asking that now. Also true with matter: Who will be seen as terrorists. That will base of classifications / determinations of western free democratic world.

If this process will take time, then it will take time.




Just yesterday Sweden and Finland got strong support from USA.



This can be calculated as first victory in international politic for Biden's USA and I'm pretty sure USA will make all it will gonna happen too. Especially as this seems to be one of very few matters two parties agrees. Opposite if it would not happen now (after all this), it would be clear authority loss for USA (and hit against united NATO, organization which talks about open door policy). Who has afford to lose here? We are living interesting time.

[Finnish Swede]

I do not drink beer (do not like taste plus it makes one overweight), but assume Finnish guys will drink this a lot coming summer

[Blondie]

That will base of classifications / determinations of western free democratic world.

Sounds good but the reality is different. The West is not really free, and they are less democratic year by year. Just look the censorship on net, or the covid laws, or the globalist media hegemony etc.

[wvwvw]

Erdogan used to be on the best of terms with ”Gulenists”. They only became terrorists when they begun to politically oppose Erdogan. And now he wants Sweden and Finland to have them deported to Turkey so he can jail them like Osman Kavala.

[Finnish Swede]

Sounds good but the reality is different. The West is not really free, and they are less democratic year by year. Just look the censorship on net, or the covid laws, or the globalist media hegemony etc.

Nothing is perfect. There is even worse systems like Russians and some in Europe... )

I do not either think that hate speeches should be allowed (as such). Or what's the benefits? Just rights to free speeches? Or same ways we can ask should violence be allowed? Are Polices only bad think as they keep up control among of humans? I think humans should follow the same rules if living close to each others.
Anarchy is hardly the solution. But racism card is used too often, here I agree. Humans simply are not similar, not matter how hard that will be said by media. And if all things which shows up those differences are called racism, there will not be objective discussion.

[Chelubey]

I don't understand why anti-globalists don't like NATO. NATO is essentially an anti-globalist organization that protects the sovereignty of many small states, which otherwise could be absorbed by the Great Empires, which in turn are globalist States.

[Albertón]

hopefuly so.

[Loki]

Sounds good but the reality is different. The West is not really free, and they are less democratic year by year. Just look the censorship on net, or the covid laws, or the globalist media hegemony etc.

That, and Russia is not really as evil as they make them out to be. Certainly not worth going to war against. We don't hate them that much -- only politicians do! But the politicians work for us.

[frankhammer]

Sounds good but the reality is different. The West is not really free, and they are less democratic year by year. Just look the censorship on net, or the covid laws, or the globalist media hegemony etc.

The three examples are not indicative of less freedom or a loss of democracy in the "western" oriented nations. They're just responses to situations unfolding that require solutions. A mere 20 years ago, the world was a simpler place. Phones were for txts or calls. The internet was in its infancy. People still used fax machines, fgs. The last global pandemic was almost a century earlier. The media could only access the population via radio, TV and newspapers.

Elections are still happening every three to fours years, based upon the electoral laws of each nation. Politicians are still losing power and others replacing them. Times change, technologies evolve and new solutions to previously inconceivable problems are required.

Get ready for a lifetime of change. It is what we humans do.