Great replacement in Lebanon

[Laly]

Aside from religion, aren't Lebanese and Syrians ethnically pretty much the same? What is the historic reason for them being two separate states in the first instance?

Syrians are not Phoenicians, Syrians are Arabs.

[Dušan]

Lebanon was majority Christian country, until few decades ago, as same as Bosnia.

[Laly]

Even before 1975, Christians were never an outright majority in Lebanon.

Lebanon was an exception in the region, being a Christian majority country and now the Christian population is shrinking.

[wvwvw]

Syrians are not Phoenicians, Syrians are Arabs.

Besides Arabs there are many other ethnic groups in Syria: Assyrians, Greeks, Armenians, Caucasians, Kurds..

[Laly]

Besides Arabs there are many other ethnic groups in Syria: Assyrians, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds..

Yes, very true. Lebanon is actually very diverse too.

By the way, I'm going to Syria next September and I will meet representatives from the different Christian communities.

[Tooting Carmen]

Syrians are not Phoenicians, Syrians are Arabs.

Lebanese and Syrians are physically indistinguishable, and it is really OWD to claim otherwise.

[SilverKnight]

Simple, deport them all. Country first, no sympathy.

[wvwvw]

Towards a partition of Lebanon?



After 100 years, many Lebanese are asking themselves: Why continue to live a lie?

In 1920, French Gen. Henri Gouraud was optimistic and, along with the Catholic Maronite Patriarch Elias Hoayek and Sunni Grand Mufti Sheikh Mustafa Naja, expanded the predominantly Christian-inhabited Mount Lebanon by creating a new geographical entity, which the French official and the two clerics named Greater Lebanon. They added the coastal towns of Beirut (then chiefly Greek Orthodox); Tripoli, Sidon, Tyre, and their hinterlands (then mostly Sunni); and the Bekaa Valley(whose populations included Shiites, Sunnis, and Christians).

Overnight, Mount Lebanon’s 80 percent Christian majority was reduced to 55 percent, which was the basis of flawed political apportionments on Sept. 1, 1920. Importantly, a demographic parity was reached between Muslims and Christians as early as 1943, when Lebanon gained formal independence.

The country made a crucial error by preserving an unwritten sectarian system that granted the top posts of the presidency to Maronites, the premiership to Sunnis, and the speakership of parliament to Shiites. The French believed that power sharing would best serve the new republic, granting the three leading religious communities high-level posts.

All 18 officially recognized religious communities were allocated specific positions that, in effect, created a unique democracy based on consociationalism. A consociational state rests on a carefully divided internal setup along ethnic, religious, or linguistic lines, with none of the divisions large enough to form a majority group that would or even could dominate the rest, but which remains relatively stable because leaders consult among each other to maintain a balance of power. In Lebanon’s case, consociationalism was meant to maintain internal stability among the newly created state’s Christian and Muslim elites....

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/18...lebanons-woes/

[Laly]

Lebanese and Syrians are physically indistinguishable, and it is really OWD to claim otherwise.

It's not sufficiant to say it's the same ethnicity, that they are ethnically the same.

[Wizz]

Syrians are not Phoenicians, Syrians are Arabs.

They are not really Arabs though ? Didn't they just became linguistically Arab during the Arab conquest and maybe absorbed some Arabs ? This kind of thing happened in many parts of the world Roman conquest, Ottoman conquest, Arab conquest, Persian conquest and other migrations or conquests that either replaced former cultures or people or where people adopted the language and culture of the conquerors or a mixture or some of the old inhabitants were absorbed into the conquering population, and while, in some cases, some weren't.

Caucasian Albania - Used to be Christian before Persian, Arab, Turkic conquest.


I haven't studied these topics enough so I don't know but nevertheless it is interesting and similar to what happened in many other parts of the world throughout history.