Great replacement in Lebanon

[Laly]

They are not really Arabs though ? Didn't they just became linguistically Arab during the Arab conquest and maybe absorbed some Arabs ? This kind of thing happened in many parts of the world Roman conquest, Ottoman conquest, Arab conquest, Persian conquest and other migrations or conquests that either replaced former cultures or people or where people adopted the language and culture of the conquerors or a mixture or some of the old inhabitants were absorbed into the conquering population, and while, in some cases, some weren't.

Caucasian Albania - Used to be Christian before Persian, Arab, Turkic conquest.


I haven't studied these topics enough so I don't know but nevertheless it is interesting and similar to what happened in many other parts of the world throughout history.

You are right, indeed. I mean that nowadays, the Phoenician identity is still strong among Lebaneses, many would never say they are Arab, while in Syria, the majority considers itself to be Arab.

[Wizz]

You are right, indeed. I mean that nowadays, the Phoenician identity is still strong among Lebaneses, many would never say they are Arab, while in Syria, the majority considers itself to be Arab.

They could also have some genetic influence from Arabs. It's a topic I haven't really studied. But about Lebanon I was reading here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement , though I am not sure how accurate wiki is.

[Laly]

They could also have some genetic influence from Arabs. It's a topic I haven't really studied. But about Lebanon I was reading here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement , though I am not sure how accurate wiki is.

And Arab nationalism was really born in Syria, with Michel Aflak:



But ironically it has roots in Lebanon too, with Boutros al-Boustani.

[Annie999]

Lebanon was an exception in the region, being a Christian majority country and now the Christian population is shrinking.

Lebanon had massive emigrations and it was the Christians that left. It must be hard to be the only majority Christian country surrounded by orthodox Muslims.

[Incal]

Sadly, it's too late for the Middle East. Its fate was doomed when the muslims got rid of the only hope that wasteland had: the Christians. South America should invite the remaining lebanese christians to settle here.

[NSXD60]

It was too unsafe for Christians so many left a country in which Beirut was still being called until 1975 the Paris of the Middle East. Who wants their family murdered by jealous Muzzies.

[Longbowman]

Aside from religion, aren't Lebanese and Syrians ethnically pretty much the same? What is the historic reason for them being two separate states in the first instance?

Lebanon's history as a polity goes back to the French protectorate of Mount Lebanon, which the French (and British and Austrians) compelled the Ottomans to allow them to create after a series of bloody sectarian wars (yes I know, sectarianism before Zionism! it's almost as if Muslim recollection of their so-called tolerant history is completely false) in 1861. At the time of Sykes-Picot, after the Ottoman defeat in WWI, the French decided to expand the Mount Lebanon proto-state to make a sort of 'Greater Lebanon' which included many majority-Muslim areas and was in the long run a really fucking stupid idea which completely destabilised Lebanon and led to its inevitable collapse.

[Tongio]

Syrians are not Phoenicians, Syrians are Arabs.

Lebanese and syrians are the same people separeted by imperialism and foreingn interests, both have similar amount of Phoenician(semitic) and árab(also semitic).

[Italicus]

Lebanese and syrians are the same people separeted by imperialism and foreingn interests, both have similar amount of Phoenician(semitic) and árab(also semitic).

Eh, yes and no. Overall they are similar but there are differences. The different sects of Islam and Christianity are genetically and culturally distinct.

[Tongio]

Eh, yes and no. Overall they are similar but there are differences. The different sects of Islam and Christianity are genetically and culturally distinct.

Druzes,Lebanese muslins, Lebanese Christian and non kurdish western syrian are genetically historicaly and culturaly the same people independently of their slightly diferent interpretation of abrahamic faith or groupwise endogamic practices they are still genetically more similar to eachother than North italians are to south italians.This is not my opinion this is how their societies were for centuries before nationalism and western interventions.