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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Sí, o sea, venezolanos predominantemente negros no son lo más común tampoco pero suelen tener algo de mezcla negra comparado con otros colectivos de la región.

    Los que no, es por que son descendientes de las olas migratorias de mediados del siglo XX y suelen ser 'sifrinos' o de clase alta (en su mayoría). La población 'raizal' venezolana suele tener su grado de ascendencia afro.
    Los que no muestran ninguna mezcla negra, y se ven entre mestizos claros a blancos no son solo sifrinos ricos, sino tambien montones de personas de clase media. Yo mismo no soy ningun sifrino clase alta, y ni siquiera era clase media media cuando vivia en Venezuela, sino mas bien era clase media baja, y creo, si no me equivoco, que en una ocasion has visto como luzco. Pues para que veas.

    Estoy de acuerdo en que la mayoria de la poblacion "raizal" Venezolana tiene cierta mezcla Africana, pero esa mezcla en promedo no pasa de 20%.

    Y los Andes Venezolanos tambien se caracterizan por su casi nula mezcla Africana, y son muy comparables con los Santanderes. Son solo 10% de la poblacion de Venezuela, pero igual, si a ese 10% le sumas los sifrinos (clase alta) y mucha gente de clase media del resto del pais que es entre harniza, castiza y blanca, mas tambien mucha gente de regiones interiores del pais como los llanos, el estado Lara, etc, que se ven netamente mestizas, etc., todo eso va sumando lo uno con lo otro, y supone un buen porcentaje de poblacion con muy poco o nada de mezcla Africana (todavia minoria, pero un buen porcentaje)
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    Around 30% of Venezuela population has left and most of them were the pred euro ones at least the first wave ..

    Venezuela looks almost as triracial as Panama something as 33/33/33 . But I will say your average venezuelan looks fairly triracial 45% European 30% Indio 25% SSA on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasien View Post
    Around 30% of Venezuela population has left and most of them were the pred euro ones at least the first wave ..

    Venezuela looks almost as triracial as Panama something as 33/33/33 . But I will say your average venezuelan looks fairly triracial 45% European 30% Indio 25% SSA on average.
    What a load of bull shit. Is a fucking big LIE like a big Cathedral that as much as 30% of the Venezuelan population has left, and all of them whites and light mestizos with nobody of them left in Venezuela. I have posted plenty of current pics and videos from Venezuela with many whites and predominately European mestizos in different threads. And also lots of darker and more African mixed Venezuelans have emigrated too. I have explained this to you like 3 or 4 times already, and you keep repeating these stupid claims like a parrot. You're obviously just trolling.

    And Venezuela is very far from balanced triracial and almost on par with a country like Panama. That would be the conclusion of some idiot who only sees videos and pics from Petare (the worst favela in Caracas) and concludes that all Venezuela is like that.

    Venezuela is well over 50% Euro (perhaps between 54-56% Euro), 28-30% Amerindian, and no more than 17-20% SSA.

    Don't complain when somebody inflates the Amerindian admixture and underestimates the European admixture in Mexico, when you do the same with a foreign country you don't know shit about.
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    According to the United Nations aprox 8.84% have left Venezuela. Since offical numbers are always less than the real ones, let's say between 15% and 20%. It also says more women leave

    https://datosmacro.expansion.com/dem...de%20Venezuela.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post

    Y a las pruebas me remito: si toda esa negritud que se ve en las peores barriadas de Caracas, Maracay, etc fuese Venezolana, como se explica su tan alta profusion en las peores barriadas de esas ciudades, que contrasta con areas rurales interiores (no costeras) del centro norte donde la mayoria de gente normal y sencilla de esas areas no es negra, triracial oscura y griffe sino son una mezcla de gente entre triracial y mestiza en diversos grados? Si toda esa negritud de las peores barriadas Venezolanas fuese Venezolana de siempre, de donde salieron entonces? Del aire? Porque los escasos bolsones bajo costeros altamente Africanos de Venezuela no tienen poblacion suficiente como para decir que de ahi proviene toda la gente tan negra que ves en las peores barriadas de Caracas. No pretenderas que provienen de areas rurales no costeras del resto de Venezuela, a menos que tu pretendieses que cualquier parte de Venezuela esta llena de gente asi.
    Yo recuerdo que vi un reportaje sobre una barriada pobre de Caracas con una desproporcionado proporción de gente predominantemente negroide, y había un buen número portando camisetas de futbol de Colombia o equiposo patrocinados por POSTOBON. Por tanto, blanco y en botella.

    En realidad es que colombianos y venezolanos tienen un componente negroide similar, pero mientras que los venezolanos son más homogéneos pardos trirraciales, en Colombia hay más extremos. Yo aquí en Espańa he muchos colombianos negros cuasipuros o predominantemente negroide, mientras no he visto ningún venezolanos negro puro o claramente de predominio negroide.

    Y lo que me hace pensar que en Venezuela es algo menos negroide es porque Venezuela recibió una fuerte inmigración europea que no recibió Colombia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasien View Post
    Around 30% of Venezuela population has left and most of them were the pred euro ones at least the first wave ..

    Venezuela looks almost as triracial as Panama something as 33/33/33 . But I will say your average venezuelan looks fairly triracial 45% European 30% Indio 25% SSA on average.
    THIS CARNAL. TRUE DAT. I SAW RECENT VIDEOS OF VENEZUELA AND IT LOOKS LIKE CHOCO OR CARTAGENA. ALL THE WHITIES,MESTIZOS,CASTIZOS FROM VENEZUELA JUST DISSAPEARED AND LEFT THE COUNTRY,SO IT SEEMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Some people on this forum seem to believe Venezuelans are on average 15% SSA or even less when in fact SSA admixture there is actually fairly widespread?

    Why does it come as a surprise to them that Venezuelans have a decent amount of black ancestry? I'm talking to you, perikolopez.

    Is Yulimar Rojas not a Venezolana or Hugo Chavez (a zambo)?

    I definitely don't think they are just 15% SSA on average.
    AGREE. AVERAGE % SSA NIGGA IN VENEZUELA AS A WHOLE IS AROUND 20-21% BASED ON THE VIDEOS I HAVE SEEN OF VENEZUELA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMuller View Post
    THIS CARNAL. TRUE DAT. I SAW RECENT VIDEOS OF VENEZUELA AND IT LOOKS LIKE CHOCO OR CARTAGENA. ALL THE WHITIES,MESTIZOS,CASTIZOS FROM VENEZUELA JUST DISSAPEARED AND LEFT THE COUNTRY,SO IT SEEMS.
    LOL, you very likely saw a very crappy slum from Petare, or people from Barlovento or some place like that. Like if I saw a video full of very Amerindian people from Chiapas or Oaxaca, and claimed that all Mexico is like that. Something very idiotic.

    I already explained how things are in my last response to Haslen, who either just like to troll like you, or is so stupid and retarded that still don't get it even after 4-5 times of telling him the same thing.

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    Cuando ves a un Kong olombiano y a un Kong ozolano peleándose por quien es más negro..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chile Raptor 2.0 View Post
    Cuando ves a un Kong olombiano y a un Kong ozolano peleándose por quien es más negro..


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