Shooting at Texas Elementary School, at least 21 dead.

[Alenka]

https://www.fastcompany.com/90605459...y-surprise-you

Researchers examined all U.S. shootings at K-12 schools from 1980-2019. They found that of 133 incidents, 1 in 4 had an armed guard on the scene. Not only did the presence of the armed guards not correlate with fewer injuries, but the death rate was 2.83 times greater in school shootings with armed guards.

Guns just increase violence. I don't know why people don't understand this.

This statistic only takes into account the shootings that happened despite there being armed guards, but it doesn't take into account the shootings it deterred or prevented.
If only 1 out of 4 schools where the shootings happened had guards, then it means schools without guards are more likely to be targeted, because the percentage of schools with guards is higher than 1 in 4:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-study-finds

[frankhammer]

Exactly. I don't remember last time when I heard about Swiss school shooting.

Unfortunately, the rest of his post displayed significant ignorance. He also excused a couple of shootings in Switzerland due to the perpetrator's ethnicity. Salvador Ramos sounds very British isles, don't you think?

[Jana]

Unfortunately, the rest of his post displayed significant ignorance. He also excused a couple of shootings in Switzerland due to the perpetrator's ethnicity. Salvador Ramos sounds very British isles, don't you think?

2 mass shootings in last 20 years. US had almost 30 in this year only (only school shootings, gang violence excluded), and we are half trough this year.

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/11010...ootings-so-far

It's incomparable as Switzerland has no problem with violent crime.

Yeah, this guy was Latino. But if I am not mistaken, it's most often young white men that commit these types of crimes in USA.

[Grace O'Malley]

This statistic only takes into account the shootings that happened despite there being armed guards, but it doesn't take into account the shootings it deterred or prevented.
If only 1 out of 4 schools where the shootings happened had guards, then it means schools without guards are more likely to be targeted, because the percentage of schools with guards is higher than 1 in 4:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-study-finds

Well anything that helps protect children would be welcomed but an armed guard didn't help in this instance. I just think it is madness that an 18 year old can buy two assault rifles legally. Also 70% of school shootings are committed by kids themselves. It is obvious there is something very wrong.

A total of 133 school shooting and attempted school shooting between 1980 and 2019 were studied. The age of the perpetrator ranged from 10 to 53 years, but just 16 of the shooters were aged 22 years or older. Many of the perpetrators were either current students (70%) or former students (15%) of the school. Additionally, most were male (98%) and White (76%). One hundred and twenty-one cases had full information and 57 of the cases were found to be targeted shootings. An average of 1.35 people per case were killed in a shooting and 3.15 people per case were injured. An average of 1.63 weapons were used per shooting and they were predominately handguns. Armed guards were present for 23.58% of the studied shooting. Multivariate models showed that armed guards were not linked to a significant reduction in the rates of injury. When controlling for factors of location and school characteristics, the rate of death was 2.83 times more in schools that had the presence of an armed guard (incidence rate ratio, 2.96; 95% CI = 1.43-6.13; P = .003).

https://www.fastcompany.com/90605459...y-surprise-you

[rothaer]

Gun laws may explain something, but in Switzerland, there are army guns in most households. And there is no mass shooting epidemic there. In last 20 years, only two mass shootings (Menznau and Zürich) happened, and both perpetrators were immigrants (Kosovar and Ghanaian).

Americans have different nature. In 17th and 18th century, UK sent tens of thousands criminals to colonies like USA and Australia. For this reason, Americans have enriched "criminal DNA". If they hadn´t guns, these people would do the same with knives, fists, whatever they would invent.

All true. But with fists and knives there would not be 20 dead.

The question is whether a certain population is suitable for distributing some form of "mass destruction" power (compared to fists an knives) among it.

I'd also very much like to carry a gun. But do I want that every idiot can do? You will not with confidence in advance find out who is an idiot and who not. Also, there is no realistic access to information regarding medical treatments.

But what about a notable age limit? 30 years, 40 years, 50 years? How many 50+ years old individuals have started a mass shooting?

Or if you combine it with viewing the criminal record for relevant stuff? How many 40+ aged individuals with no criminal record have started a mass shooting?

[Defcon2]

Anyone becomes a potential terrorist with access to an arsenal.

[Grace O'Malley]

Also a society should be asking why are these crimes getting so prevalent? What is causing this increase in mass shootings. Restricting gun ownership is one way but as has been pointed out here there are some deeper issues at play.

There were 61 “active shooter” incidents in the United States in 2021, according to newly released FBI data – a 52 percent increase from the previous year and the highest on record.

The FBI noted that its active shooter report does not encompass all gun violence or even all mass shootings. The Gun Violence Archive, a non-profit tracker, has recorded 211 mass shootings in just the first five months of 2022 alone.

Excluded from the data were also gang or drug-related shootings, incidents defined strictly as domestic disputes, isolated hostage situations or crossfire from other criminal acts, the FBI said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...ercent-in-2021

School shootings have been on the rise recently, but the scale of carnage Tuesday at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, is by far the worst since the 2018 attack at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...eadliest-tolls

US states with more relaxed gun control laws and higher rates of gun ownership have higher rates of mass shootings, reveals a time trends analysis, published today in The BMJ.

And the gap in the rate of mass shootings between these states and those with more restrictive laws seems to have widened in recent years, the findings show.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom...-control-laws/

[Gallop]

What strange models of society, it is difficult to eradicate violence there.

[JamesBond007]

2 mass shootings in last 20 years. US

It's incomparable as Switzerland has no problem with vio.

Yeah, this guy was Latino. But if I am not mistaken, it's most often young white men that commit these types of crimes in USA.

Media coverage of terrorism is often disproportionate to its frequency and share of deaths compared to much more banal things like car accidents in the USA. Of course, terrorism seems like a big problem in the USA if you are mentally retarded at math and mass shootings are a smaller subset of terrorist attacks.

[InmostLight]

American boys and young men are being robbed of healthy and meaningful outlets for aggression in youth. Of course they end up shooting people as late teens if they aren't even allowed to push each other on the playground as toddlers.

Strict hands-to-yourselves rules in childcare settings, the removal of contact sports programs, or their replacement with games like flag football that forbid tackling is an issue. There is also the extreme sheltering of children from meaningful violence, such as war history, and overexposure to meaningless and decontextualized violence like shooter games. I'm not saying violent video games CAUSE violence, but they're a really horrible replacement for older forms of media and literature that give violence am actual purpose for the reader to metabolize.

Not to mention endemic fatherlessness and the emerging mythical status of the single mom...

Everything we've done to prevent our kiddos from developing "toxic masculinity" has turned a generation into a bunch of sexually and emotionally repressed nightmare human beings, far worse than any old "toxic macho man." These new creatures are the incels and mass shooters of today, aching for the pseudo-manhood which was castrated from them in their youth.

For this sicko to slaughter a bunch of children, specifically, could be interpreted symbolically in relation to everything I said above.