Which is a more immoral society: the West or the Islamic world?

[Joe McCarthy]

Place your votes.

[SilverKnight]

Immoral :
Not conforming to accepted standards of morality '

Morality: "manner, character, proper behavior"

And Islam has lately shown a a lack of proper manner, character and improper behaviors at most inside their world.


Note:
In both the Western cultures and Islam improper bahavior can be found, but as far as I see it Islam has (sadly) shifted away from the standard definition of morality, do to many of its people playing improper behaviors, uncontrollable and violent characters inside their religion. Not saying that all Muslims are violent, but there are many more of them who practice violence then in the Western world religious and non-religious. Therefore my answer is: Islamic world.

[Templar]

It depends. Out in the open, or behind closed doors?

[Boudica]

I don't even need to answer this. But i'll be waiting for the towel head lover's responses with great eagerness. This will be interesting

[Joe McCarthy]

It depends. Out in the open, or behind closed doors?

It's pretty much out in the open in Afghanistan. There is a long tradition of males going about with their underage boytoys, called ashna, in public.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/marriage/marriage_6.htm

In Afghanistan, for instance, there is a widespread tradition of male homosexuality. Estimates of the number of Afghan men who engage in sex with teenage boys or other men at some time in their lives range from 18-50%.

Even the Dutch couldn't hope to approach that estimate.

Here's what British troops encountered when entering Afghanistan:

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?id=561752002&tid=1

Startled marines find Afghan men all made up to see them

By Chris Stephen In Bagram

The Scotsman

British marines returning from an operation deep in the Afghan mountains spoke last night of an alarming new threat--being propositioned by swarms of gay local farmers.

An Arbroath marine, James Fletcher, said: "They were more terrifying than the al-Qaeda. One bloke who had painted toenails was offering to paint ours. They go about hand in hand, mincing around the village." While the marines failed to find any al-Qaeda during the seven-day Operation Condor, they were propositioned by dozens of men in villages the troops were ordered to search. "We were pretty shocked," Marine Fletcher said. "We discovered from the Afghan soldiers we had with us that a lot of men in this country have the same philosophy as ancient Greeks: 'a woman for babies, a man for pleasure'."

Originally, the marines had sent patrols into several villages in the mountains near the town of Khost, hoping to catch up with al-Qaeda suspects who last week fought a four-hour gun battle with soldiers of the Australian SAS. The hardened troops, their faces covered in camouflage cream and weighed down with weapons, radios and ammunition, were confronted with Afghans wanting to stroke their hair. "It was hell," said Corporal Paul Richard, 20. "Every village we went into we got a group of men wearing make-up coming up, stroking our hair and cheeks and making kissing noises."

At one stage, troops were invited into a house and asked to dance. Citing the need to keep momentum in their search and destroy mission, the marines made their excuses and left. "They put some music on and ask us to dance. I told them where to go," said Cpl Richard. "Some of the guys turned tail and fled. It was hideous."

The Afghan hill tribes live in some of the most isolated communities in the country. "I think a lot of the problem is that they don’t have the women around a lot," said another marine, Vaz Pickles. "We only saw about two women in the whole six days. It was all very disconcerting."

More on Afghan buggery here.

[Contra Mundum]

Who cares what Muslims do in their world. We all know they're f*cked up. The focus should be keeping them out of the West, not bombing their countries and creating a refugee crisis with more of them moving to Europe.

These absurd polls are meant to manipulate the discussion in a way to make it appear that those who oppose the West wasting resources and blood on foreign wars to mean they are pro-Muslim.

[Jake Featherston]

The West is very flashy, crude, vulgar, and ostentatious in its immorality, but if our situations were reversed, and the Muslims were the stronger, they'd be raping our daughters, so they're worse (despite our tragic, phenomenal, almost breath-taking moral lapses).

Besides, Islam is just plain wrong. Christ is the truth, not Allah.

[Magister Eckhart]

You're making me choose between the self-absorbed, materialistic, hedonistic and godless shell of the West and a vibrant, terrible, and living evil of the Saracen Hordes? A merchant-ruled dystopia and the slave-minded wasteland? How does one choose between those two?

Neither is my ally. Neither shows any regard at large for morality or self-control.

[Sol Invictus]

You're making me choose between the self-absorbed, materialistic, hedonistic and godless shell of the West and a vibrant, terrible, and living evil of the Saracen Hordes? A merchant-ruled dystopia and the slave-minded wasteland? How does one choose between those two?

Neither is my ally. Neither shows any regard at large for morality or self-control.

Thank you!

[Joe McCarthy]

You're making me choose between the self-absorbed, materialistic, hedonistic and godless shell of the West and a vibrant, terrible, and living evil of the Saracen Hordes? A merchant-ruled dystopia and the slave-minded wasteland? How does one choose between those two?

Neither is my ally. Neither shows any regard at large for morality or self-control.

I have to remind myself that you think businessmen are of the same nature as terrorists and rapists.

There is no moral equivalency between Islam and the West.