How different are southern Europeans amongst themselves phenotypically?

[gixajo]

im not sure thats true, because even the rest of the crete greeks dont look so middleeastern, and i assume the rest of greece would look more different to middleeast then

What do you understand as typical middleasterner look?

[Melonman]

What do you understand as typical middleasterner look?

something in this line, though theres no typical middleeastern look. ''middleeasterners'' are diverse themselves

https://anfenglish.com/rojava-northe...n-aleppo-35638
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/r...-turkey-border


https://www.123rf.com/photo_96661730...d-bazaar-.html
https://eu.gainesville.com/story/new...s/31199260007/


http://america.aljazeera.com/article...anstreets.html
http://america.aljazeera.com/content...an_watch_1.jpg





https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/C99D/prod...5_86931614.jpg
https://www.dreamstime.com/metropoli...image148090902

[gixajo]

something in this line, though theres no typical middleeastern look. ''middleeasterners'' are diverse themselves

https://anfenglish.com/rojava-northe...n-aleppo-35638
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/r...-turkey-border


https://www.123rf.com/photo_96661730...d-bazaar-.html
https://eu.gainesville.com/story/new...s/31199260007/


http://america.aljazeera.com/article...anstreets.html
http://america.aljazeera.com/content...an_watch_1.jpg





https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/C99D/prod...5_86931614.jpg
https://www.dreamstime.com/metropoli...image148090902

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How different amongst ourselves are we? It depends on the eye of the observer.

The closer you are to either group, the more differences you will see, the further away you are, the less.

That considering that you are a sincere observer, if you are not, interestedly you will approach or distance the groups, according to the idea you want to give of them.

[Melonman]

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How different amongst ourselves are we? It depends on the eye of the observer.

The closer you are to either group, the more differences you will see, the further away you are, the less.

That considering that you are a sincere observer, if you are not, interestedly you will approach or distance the groups, according to the idea you want to give of them.

double comment

[Melonman]

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How different amongst ourselves are we? It depends on the eye of the observer.

The closer you are to either group, the more differences you will see, the further away you are, the less.

That considering that you are a sincere observer, if you are not, interestedly you will approach or distance the groups, according to the idea you want to give of them.

bro, no offense, but certain south euros arent really different looking to west asians. i really cant even tell the difference between the examples i picked and the people in the crowd pics. the one with the turks from adana had even more people who could pass in greece, and even the ones from northwest iran had people not really that different looking to several types of south euros.

but i respect your thinking

[Dimitri159]

im not sure thats true, because even the rest of the crete greeks dont look so middleeastern, and i assume the rest of greece would look more different to middleeast then

You’re wrong. Greece shares a lot of phenotypes with the Middle East and/or similar ones; like Dinarid in Greece resembles Armenoid of the Middle East for example. Mediterranean types also span throughout southern Europe and the Middle East, especially in the Levant region.

FYI a very large portion of the mainland today has islander ancestry not to mention Pontic and Cypriot. At least 20-30% of the mainland itself has islander ancestry or at least partial due to migration patterns throughout Greek history.

[Dimitri159]

The vast majority of examples can't pass in Lebanon or the Middle East. Some extremes indeed can, but most cannot.

Plus the vast majority are more likely to look like this:





Or this:

His examples did not look like these guys, but even these guys could pass in the Levant quite easily. You’re confusing Arabians for the rest of the Middle East. But truthfully even some Arabians will look similar to these guys.

[Melonman]

You’re wrong. Greece shares a lot of phenotypes with the Middle East and/or similar ones; like Dinarid in Greece resembles Armenoid of the Middle East for example. Mediterranean types also span throughout southern Europe and the Middle East, especially in the Levant region.

FYI a very large portion of the mainland today has islander ancestry not to mention Pontic and Cypriot. At least 20-30% of the mainland itself has islander ancestry or at least partial due to migration patterns throughout Greek history.

i will take back my words when it comes to turks, but cretes as whole still do look different to middleeasterners, though i will say many turks and greeks passes for one another

[Dimitri159]

i will take back my words when it comes to turks, but cretes as whole still do look different to middleeasterners, though i will say many turks and greeks passes for one another

First of all you should keep in mind that when referring to Cretans you are also referring to the rest of Greece considering the fact that there is NOT a drastic difference in terms of phenotype.

(Skim through the whole videos to get an idea)
Cretans:
Thessalians:

As for Turks you might as well also throw in Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds and Lebanese people because all of these groups share the same and/or similar features. Greeks are little different but you can definitely still see some resemblance between them. Greeks are most similar looking to Italians and perhaps European Jews first and foremost. Secondly probably certain West Asians as well as Balkan people.