Kherson to become part of Russia soon

[Russki]

Where do people find energy to talk about Ukraine 24/7?

[Dušan]

And what percentage of the population according to your relatives would feel Ukrainian in Kherson before the war?

It is interesting that Ukrainian identity didnt exist until 20th century.
Before that, they call themselves Rusyns/Ruthenians.

Ethnic Ukrainians were historically known as Ruthenians until the early 20th century, referring to the medieval land of Ruthenia, which was the Latin term for what is now known as Kievan Rus, a medieval East Slavic state with the capital in Kyiv.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainians

The ethnonym Ukrainians came into wide use only in the 20th century after the territory of Ukraine obtained distinctive statehood in 1917.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainians#Ethnonym



In 18-19th century, when todays both northern Serbia and western Ukraine were parts of Habsburg Empire, there were migrations of East Slavs from Carpathians into Pannonian plain in todays northern Serbia.

They formed here settlement with name Руски Крстур - Russian Krstur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruski_Krstur


Why not Ukrainian Krstur, if they came from hardcore western Ukraine?

[Victor]

They would try to homogenize the country by repressing any feeling of belonging to Russia, now it will be the other way around. Or not, because few in the Russian-controlled areas will dare to point out as pro-Ukrainian, and most will have simply fled.

Do you think that if the Ukrainian government had been more friendly towards the pro-Russian population and would have avoided using militias with extremist ideology as an auxiliary arm of the government, Russia would not have invaded Ukraine?

And what percentage of the population according to your relatives would feel Ukrainian in Kherson before the war?

Those conscious Ukrainians mostly left the region. Huge percent of population would accept Russia, no matter what's their ethnic identity, being Ukrainian does not automatically mean being Ukrainian nationalist and state patriot.

[Victor]

Where do people find energy to talk about Ukraine 24/7?

No ideas, I do it after longer pauses

[Nurzat]

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in my dad's region in northernmost Romania, where Ukrainians have their own compact exclusive region, they call themselves rusnaky (руснаки), and are called Russians by the neighbouring Moldovans, Transylvanians and Hungarians

[Russki]

In 18-19th century, when todays both northern Serbia and western Ukraine were parts of Habsburg Empire, there were migrations of East Slavs from Carpathians into Pannonian plain in todays northern Serbia.

They formed here settlement with name Руски Крстур - Russian Krstur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruski_Krstur


Why not Ukrainian Krstur, if they came from hardcore western Ukraine?

Because there Russians in the Carpathian Mountains, of course, with a Carpathid phenotype similar to Romanians

[Victor]

Because there Russians in the Carpathian Mountains, of course, with a Carpathid phenotype similar to Romanians

Ruthenians in Serbia look very Slavic, nothing carpathid about them. Hutsuls who are definelty an isolated Vlach tribe have these carpathid traits.

[Russki]

Ruthenians in Serbia look very Slavic, nothing carpathid about them. Hutsuls who are definelty an isolated Vlach tribe have these carpathid traits.

Hutsuls are Ruthenians too.

[Victor]

Hutsuls are Ruthenians too.

No, their culture, lifestyle and anthropology show them as a sort of ultra-vlachs and inbreds who live in an isolated region for centuries.

[Russki]

In any case, I was very optimistic about the opportunity to take the whole Black Sea coastline to Russia.

Ukraine in this scenario becomes a landlocked country.