Should the EU be destroyed or reformed?

[Wulfhere]

When I voted for Brexit in 2016, right up till the last hour or so I was still wondering whether it would be better to stay in the EU and try to reform it into something resembling an actual European union, existing for the benefit of Europeans, but in the end I decided it would be impossible to reform, and needs to be completely replaced. But it was only after the vote, and experiencing how Brexit supporters were treated by the UK political elites, that I became sure I'd voted the right way. Everything the EU has done since then has only confirmed this.

[Loki]

Ursula Von Der Leyen is doing a pretty good job of destroying the EU from the inside. Maybe she's a secret Russian agent? Lol

[Victor]

Ursula Von Der Leyen is doing a pretty good job of destroying the EU from the inside. Maybe she's a secret Russian agent? Lol

I'm amazed how EU is willing to destroy itself for the sake of some failed state that won't exist in near future. USA and UK at least have some kind of their satanic benefit from this, while EU is just commiting suicide.

[Wulfhere]

Ursula Von Der Leyen is doing a pretty good job of destroying the EU from the inside. Maybe she's a secret Russian agent? Lol

It's quite amusing watching the whole house of cards crumbling, before our very eyes.

[Victor]

Ursula Von Der Leyen is doing a pretty good job of destroying the EU from the inside. Maybe she's a secret Russian agent? Lol

I'm amazed how EU is willing to destroy itself for the sake of some failed state that won't exist in near future. USA and UK at least have some kind of their satanic benefit from this, while EU is just commiting suicide.

[gixajo]

It's quite amusing watching the whole house of cards crumbling, before our very eyes.

You have contributed to it for years,even when you were inside from within.

Anyway rejoicing in the misfortune of others is quite miserable.

[sioned]

I dont want the EU, period!

[Wulfhere]

You have contributed to it for years,even when you were inside from within.

Anyway rejoicing in the misfortune of others is quite miserable.

If the EU had been nicer towards the UK I would be less inclined to find amusement in its misfortune.

[gixajo]

If the EU had been nicer towards the UK I would be less inclined to find amusement in its misfortune.

And why does the UK have to be treated differently from the other partners? Are you special?

What cannot be done is to try to take advantage of an alliance only when it suits us and benefits us, and as soon as there are problems, leave the group.

When one is in an alliance, one has privileges and obligations, and one thing implies the other.

That would be the critical part about "Brexit", on the other hand, I perfectly understand the criticism of the EU. Especially in the loss of political independence of the nations that compose it.

Anyway, you're gone now, you got what some people wanted in the UK, so why don't you stop messing around and at least behave like decent allies, and stop interfering negatively as if you wish the EU would disappear?

Everything related to your exit from the EU was and is like a self-fulfilling prophecy. First you create problems so that everything goes wrong, then you say: "Look, everything is all badly planned and they treat us badly, we have to leave" and now that you are out, so that people do not regret Brexit, you continue creating problems, because if the EU worked well, you would look like idiots.

And that´s all I can say about that issue, I'm going for a walk,because it's a beautiful day.

[Loki]

I'm amazed how EU is willing to destroy itself for the sake of some failed state that won't exist in near future. USA and UK at least have some kind of their satanic benefit from this, while EU is just commiting suicide.

Because it's not really about Ukraine. Ukraine is just used as an excuse to target and damage/destroy Russia. And yes, this ultimately comes from the US, and most European leaders are puppets of the US system.