Should the EU be destroyed or reformed?

[Vrazijadivizija]

EU is a cancer,disease for every nation..it maybe used to be a good thing back in the past but now its a way to damage and enslave whole country,take absolute control.
But i doubt its gonna fall apart,almost impossible.

[Zeno]

Yes, because it is useless to begin with.

It is inevitable that a union between states which have vastly different interests to begin with, along with different types of development, legal jurisdiction and legal order and cultures would never come across as a well-structured entity. After Brexit, it became more apparent.

But the most practical evidence on why it's useless is the accomplished fact that it just CANNOT handle any type of crisis in a good way, especially when the aspect of keeping the Union intact comes into argument.

The economic crisis? Half of the member-states came out of it severely damaged, especially my country, with measures that were unimplementable to begin with and worsened its debt considerably, even if it's "more viable" (able to be repaid in longer-term).

The migrant crisis? Oh, the period in which my country filled with ~2 million "refugees" that were later proved to be almost entirely peoples who just came to leech benefits from both northern European AND southern European countries (because a great deal will remain here in Greece too)? And which period was the initiation of unprecendented turmoil throughout the entire continent, as social cohesion plummeted, crime verifiably skyrocketed and insecurity became apparent in all aspects. As if they didn't want all of this however (Coudenhove-Kalergi's plan on Praktischer Idealismus on full display since 2015 you know).

The COVID "crisis": clearly a made up from-the-inside crisis, in which the EU and the member-states themselves imposed truly authoritarian restrictions upon its citizenry and imposed mandatory vaccinations with a medical product that is of very unlikely effectivity and through which it imposed an almost clear-cut apartheid-like split between the "vaccinated" and the "unvaccinated", with the latter being openly labeled and disgraced as "dangers to the public health"? And which crisis started another economic catastrophe, which was exaggerated and at the danger of being manifested by this next failure...

The Ukrainian crisis... Through the absolutely retarded rhetoric of aggression towards a state which supplies the Union with over 50% of its total energy supply and 1/3rd of its food, without the Union having any actual plans to combat the impending energy and food shortage besides... Fucking gibs. Which will only exarcebate the already pent up inflation, as all economies face recession or lessened growth rates, which, accompanied by enhanced monetary circulation, is a perfect recipe for a repeat of an economic crisis. The citizens of the EU will become poorer, with food and energy considerably more expensive at the same time, and the EU does absolutely shit to face this, besides playing the badass in front of a man who plays the bravado and who can actually destroy us economically, as we still haven't come up with alternatives to face him effectively.

It's a fucking disgrace of a political entity. It would actually be a net benefit if it just disappeared.

[Lisyonok]

EU was a good idea i think, but this present day EU should be destroyed very quickly. Its rather a neomarxist empire the new USSR.

I agree. EU has some good ideas. One example is free movement between EU states. (But it should be only for native Europeans, not for these flows coming over Mediterranean Sea).

Sadly today´s EU has leftist ideology and tries to destroy Europe.

[catgeorge]

Unelected Bureaucratic mess governed only by finance almost forcing people how to think and live. It's an activist ideology and has nothing to do with people only self interests.

[Damião de Góis]

Like others have said, i also think the EU in theory is a good idea, but it was poorly executed. An organization such as this has kept peace in Europe for decades.

[RogueState]

The European Union will collapse like the USSR.

The European Union was a project of crazy Kabbalist mathematicians (as a first step towards the implementation of a New World Order and its world government). Take geography as an image: there are countries with mountains higher than 4000 meters, and other areas below the sea level; and force them to be all at the same level in less than 30 years... like in the Kabbalah where the real world is replaced by abstraction: words and numbers. An Euclidian plan where every elements are isomorphic.

It's economically crazy to put together countries with widely different economic productivity, growth, unemployment, current balances, tax policies, and most importantly, cultures and no common feeling of belonging to the same Nation.

Because there is no unified European identity (as much as there is no African identity or Asian identity). There irony of history is that you can find Europeans only in North America.

To me, only the Nation-State is the right balance between tiny atomized regions that lacks the scale to be sovereign and the global neo-empires that inherently cannot aggregate wide differences between people

The Nation-State offers a sufficient level of homogeneity (cultural, self-identification, common history, common economic levels) and critical mass, economies of scale that can allow a "real" democracy (not the current mascarade known as liberal representative democracy) to flourish.

It is a dialectical evolution, since the Nation-State, in its inception, was a indeed product of Capitalism, it has now become a force of resistance against the modern form of Capitalism; the Globalized Financialized Capitalism (under control of the Chosen People' community and their (para-)Masonic friends) which aims to create big blocks in order to build the NWO.

The crisis in Ukraine only gives a fake sense of unity (a negative identity : being anti-Russia), but all the sanctions put to "punish Russia" not only isolate Europe from the rest of the world (who didn't put any sanctions and highlight the double standards of the West that are quick to blame Russia but said nothing when NATO-US destroyed other countries...), it will only lead to rising inflation and economic depression in the EU, which will bring closer the internal collapse of it, especially after the Ukrainian crisis will be solved (partition of Ukraine).

[Incal]

Reformed. The 3 main ones should be:

1) Each country should have its own migration policies (including dealing with "refugees")

2) A dual currency system. Besides the Euro, every country should also go back to their original currencies to handle inflation better.

3) Repel any Anglo influence.

[Wulfhere]

Reformed. The 3 main ones should be:

1) Each country should have its own migration policies (including dealing with "refugees")

2) A dual currency system. Besides the Euro, every country should also go back to their original currencies to handle inflation better.

3) Repel any Anglo influence.

If you don't like Anglo influence, may I suggest that in future, you avoid using English, then we'll just ignore you.

[Wulfhere]

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[Creoda]

If you don't like Anglo influence, may I suggest that in future, you avoid using English, then we'll just ignore you.

Ironically if 'Anglo' influence in the EU had been greater, the first two would have been less of a problem.