As a whole, do Greeks look more like the Italians or the Turkish?

[kingmob]

Catgeorge is Medieval Bulgarian import (Karakachan), he is irrelevant to the OP.

[placebo]

Catgeorge is Medieval Bulgarian import (Karakachan), he is irrelevant to the OP.

what's karakachan? it looks like turkish word karakaçan.

kara - black
kaçan - one that got away

[placebo]

How is Italian winning!? Greeks look like Turks because many Turks have fucking Greek ancestry and vice fucking versa!

because italians more closer. and both side don't have greek or turkish ancestry.

balkan or western anatolian turks (as appearance) more closer to bulgarians and romanians imo. other parts of country closer to caucasus and northern iran.

[kingmob]

what's karakachan? it looks like turkish word karakaçan.

kara - black
kaçan - one that got away

They are a nomadic shepherd group originally from Bulgarian and Ottoman Thrace, the name they use is indeed Ottoman originally, probably because their group has nothing of note to show other than their thuggery and scumbaggery.

There were 80.000 of them in the 80s, they claim ancient Greek ancestry but their ethnography and autosomals are typical Balkan, some of their historiographers even claim 25000 years of continuity, rofl, typical Balkan retardation, the bad kind.

[Guti]

Italians of course. Maybe only the Islamized/Turkified Aegean Sea Hellenic people look similar to the Greeks, but there are not a lot of that type of 'Turks'.

Greeks are by far closer to the Italians than to the Turks, in many different ways. Like common Indo-European roots, culture, religion, being an European culture etc.

[Renekton]

Mainland Greeks are closer to the Balkans and to some extent to Italians.

Nothing to do with Turks except some elements such cuisine and Eastern cultural elements in 1922.

[Hoosierboy]

Greeks are Euro mixed with sand people no different than Italians

[catgeorge]

Greeks are Euro mixed with sand people no different than Italians

Let me see your little skinny neck trailer trash.

[-Scar-]

As a whole and on average, middle point between Albanians and Turks with no East Asian coming through in their pheno.

The South Italian similarity narrative is coincidental PCA clustering shennanigans.

Greek clustering with Albanians is also a coincidental PCA clustering. Due to heavy Slavic admixture that pulled mainlanders north while Albanians remained more genetically conservative. There are regions in Greece with 0 Arvanite presence that cluster close to Albanians.

And Southern Italians are not Ancient Greek transplants. Middle Eastern admixture brought by Roman slaves and soldiers gives Southern Italians a pseudo-Cretan-with-a-slight-northwestern-pull genetic profile.