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Thread: Do S.Italians really cluster with Askhenazi?

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    South Italians are not genetically European. Yes, they cluster with Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    South Italians are not genetically European. Yes, they cluster with Jews.
    What? ��

    There is some MENA in them but the base is still European. Or does MENA remove Spaniards and Portuguese from the European family too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    What? ��

    There is some MENA in them but the base is still European. Or does MENA remove Spaniards and Portuguese from the European family too?
    Spaniards and Portuguese dont cluster with non Europeans.

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    They are people who spread Christianity in Europe, of course coming from Jerusalem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektor12 View Post
    They are people who spread Christianity in Europe, of course coming from Jerusalem.
    And Spaniards were the people who spread Christiniaty in America and Asia, of course coming from Castilla

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    AFAIK Ashkenazi Jews being a mix of Italian converts + minor Central-East Euro converts and genuine Levantine Jews, makes them cluster near Sicilians and Greek Islanders, but it doesn't mean that Sicilians were originally Jews or that Ashkenazi Jews were originally Sicilian
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    Ashkenazi Jews are lighter than North Italians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews are lighter than North Italians.
    Not true


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    This PCA is the result of projecting just 2 coordinates among several, if we change the coordinates of components groups for each axis all these groups will plot in a very different position.

    The so called Eastern Mediterranean component, shared in different quantities for geographical closeness between Levantines, SE Europeans and Italians, (specially southerners), is what produces this genetical overlapping with these populations.

    I consider South Italians, Greek islanders completelly Europeans indepently regardless of that PCA or others.

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