Origin of the Caucasian (Caucasus) race and its descedants

[Guti]

this image reminds me of this nintendo game hahaahahaah

Kurds and Caucasians are brothers. We have historic ties with each other for thousands of years. We don't only have a common ancient CHG/Iran_ChL origin, but it is also a historic fact that Caucasian people have assimilated many Iranics (Medes/Kurds, Scytho-Sarmatians/Ossetians) and Kurds/Medes have assimilated many native Caucasian Hurrian people.

[Kyp]

Kurds and Caucasians are brothers. We have historic ties with each other for thousands of years. We don't only have a common ancient CHG/Iran_ChL origin, but it is also a historic fact that Caucasian people have assimilated many Iranics (Medes/Kurds, Scytho-Sarmatians/Ossetians) and Kurds/Medes have assimilated many native Caucasian Hurrian people.

CHG is closely related to Iran_N.
Iran_Chl already is western (anatolian/levantine/middle-eastern) shifted in comparison.

[Guti]

CHG is closely related to Iran_N.
Iran_Chl already is western (anatolian/levantine/middle-eastern) shifted in comparison.

Iran_ChL = 63.1% CHG + 16.7% Iran_N = in total 79.8% CHG/Iran_N. Still enough to plot close to more ancient CHG/Iran_N components. Iran_ChL does still belong to the same 'Caucasoid' racial family group as CHG/Iran_N.




According to Lazaridis, Reich, Haak, Patterson etc. it was actually the Iran_ChL component as the 1st stage of PIEan that Indo-Europeanised the second stage PIEan Yamnaya Horizon.

[tk'es]

Kurds and Caucasians are brothers. We have historic ties with each other for thousands of years. We don't only have a common ancient CHG/Iran_ChL origin, but it is also a historic fact that Caucasian people have assimilated many Iranics (Medes/Kurds, Scytho-Sarmatians/Ossetians) and Kurds/Medes have assimilated many native Caucasian Hurrian people.

undoubtedly, the unity makes us stronger

[HectorOfTroy]

The Epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest epic ever written. It predates Torah by more than 1000 years.

The Noah's Ark epic is most likely derived from the Epic of Gilgamesh.

The Epic of Gilgamesh written c. 2150 - 1400 BCE
Torah written 6th century BCE

Torah (as of Abrahamic teaching) was for a huge part influenced by the ancient Mesopotamian traditions and Zoroastrianism.

You have no evidence. You're automatically assuming the story is false, and therefore think the story couldn't of spread without someone copying someone else like a fairy tale.

If we're talking about a fairy tale, then the rules are whoever wrote about it secondly after it was first written by someone else, then the second person copied the first person, because the story did not exist before the first person made it up, so there's nowhere else they could've gotten it from.

Also a lot of bronze age groups were illiterate, just because someone else put it on paper/cuneiform first doesn't mean it couldn't of been circulating orally beforehand, amongst other people.

[Guti]

Also a lot of bronze age groups were illiterate, just because someone else put it on paper/cuneiform first doesn't mean it couldn't of been circulating orally beforehand, amongst other people.

Ok.

Hellenic version of Noah was Deucalion and the earliest written story of him was written even after the Torah was written, while Greeks could already write about Deucalion centuries earlier.

I am not saying that the story was false. There must be some truth in it. Many ancient cultures all over the world had stories of the Great Flood. Some even believe that the myth of Atlantis has something to do with the Great Flood.


All I know that there are a lot similarities between the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Noah's Ark epic and even the Hellenic version about Deucalion.

[Guti]

Btw here are CHG, Iran_N and Iran_ChL Dodecad K12b results. Those CHG fellas were closer to the modern day Kurds than to the modern Chechens, LMAO!


M603839 M551062 Kotias CHG




M677694 Satsurblia CHG

[Guti]

It seems that Kurds are by far closer to CHG than to Iran_Neo. But at the end of the day Kurds are a little bit closer to Iran_ChL than to CHG.


Iran_N Dodecad K12b

M825671 I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC] HV2 J2a-M410>CTS1085


M967114 I1290 Iran N


M937770 I1671 Iran LN



Iran_ChL Dodecad K12b

M124870 I1661 Iran Chalcolithic


M595455 I1670 Iran Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC] U3a'c -


M902476 I1662 Iran Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC] K1a12a J2a-M410>PF5008


M155294 I1674 Iran Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC] I1c G1-M342>GG372


M873184 I1665 Iran Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC] U7a -

[Guti]

Btw here are CHG, Iran_N and Iran_ChL Dodecad K12b results. Those CHG fellas were closer to the modern day Kurds than to the modern Chechens, LMAO!


M603839 M551062 Kotias CHG




M677694 Satsurblia CHG

Did you expect that CHG Kotias and CHG Satsurblia fellas were closer to Kurds than to Chechens, hehe? Not me to be honest. Never thought/believed that Kurds are more 'Caucasian'/'Caucasoid' than Chechens. But somehow it makes a little bit sense, since i think that Chechens are a little bit mixed with the Russians. That makes Kurds a little bit more 'pure' Cacasians/Caucasoids than Chechens.

Kurds are really one of the most 'Caucasian'/Caucasoid people out there and one of the closest to the ancient archaic CHG people of the Caucasus.

[Guti]

North Western Asia, ARYAN/Caucasian/Caucasoid CHG/Iran_ChL world



South Western Asia, Afro-Asian Arabo-Jewish Semitic world