USA vs USSR. Choose your side

[Aldaris]

Lol at people picking Soviet Union - did you escape from mental Hospital?

USA until recently was awesome place to live, after WW2 by far the western world's best, especially in the 50s.

I am simple, Feiichy, I stick to my own. Also, I don't wanna spend a night in a jail for leaving my bag on the nearby seat in a metro.

[zebruh]

The Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela etc, are excellent exampled of state run Communism.

Isnt true communism when there is anarchy and no government authority?
Not sure if this is correct


But also none if these governments achieved real communism because
Communism is democracy at the work place. When the workers all share and run the company. A workers co op is closer to that idea of communism.

The managerial class isnt technically a proletariat

What you had was kind of socialist based countries.

The USSR was pretty successful for a while. I mean people knock the soviet union for collapsing even though it did well for nearly a century but they dont blame capitalism for the fall of ukraine neither. Or somalias poverty.

Bolivia was doing well but the US backed some coup supporters against evo morales before

I dont like much of what the US does politically. I only like some rights i have here as a citizen compared to many other countries.

[Lisyonok]

Finally there is one poll where even I choose USA.

Soviet communism was hell. My grandmother escaped from USSR and everyone can think why.

[zebruh]

Finally there is one poll where even I choose USA.

Soviet communism was hell. My grandmother escaped from USSR and everyone can think why.

For every 1 grandma that "escaped" the soviet union. Theres probably like 10 old russian grandmas that reminiscent about it. Literally seeing homeless people begging everyday in this country. Im sure the soviet union didnt have a homeless epidemic.

[TheMaestro]

USA any day.
Damned ugly backward communists

[Benyzero]

USA any day.
Damned ugly backward communists

Thats true almost anything better than that.

[oszkar07]

The USA with its proxy wars , war mongering , hypocrisys etc etc certainly has many a flaw. But at least its somewhat possible to be self critical and voice a critical oppinion publicly as a journalist/citizen without the fear of being jailed or poisoned. Im not certain the same could be said about Russia.

[Roy]

The USA with its proxy wars , war mongering , hypocrisys etc etc certainly has many a flaw. But at least its somewhat possible to be self critical and voice a critical oppinion publicly as a journalist/citizen without the fear of being jailed or poisoned. Im not certain the same could be said about Russia.

In modern Russia let alone Soviet one you can be thrown out of the window for voicing certain opinions.

[Russki]

thrown out of the window

3 million Reddit karma has been deposited into your account.

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Neither are very desirable but, if the Libertarians and the "Bill of Rights"/small government/anti-interventionist Republicans can form together against the globalist/intersectionalist feminist crap, I would have to back the US.

At the end of the day, they've been a better, more progressive empire than even the British. They've basically allowed much of SEA to develop through their outsourcing of tech back in the late '80s and developed China and Japan from the ground up.
They would have lifted India out of poverty too but, the Indian elite had other ideas (more socialism). Aside from the questionable issues around their propensity for coups around the wold (not as bloody as other empires, though), I think their huge technological and scientific contributions to the world are beyond compare.

If empires must exist (and, well Islamists, Chinese, Communists ... lots of parties would seek to fill the void, should the US collapse), best to have an empire with some good values and externalities. Also, love rock, folk, blue grass and country music and the '80s!