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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    Yeah right.

    Lets look at the Assyrian Y-DNA chart then compare it to your own Yezidi's and other ethnic Aryan minorities.
    Who has more Semitic ancestry?
    Also please show us some of the carvings and artifacts that your Aryan ancestor left in Northern Mesopotamia & Anatolia to compare it to the what Assyrian left behind as shown below.

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    Are you an idiot? Assyrian auDNA is by far more Semitic than Yezidi Kurdish auDNA.

    You are more Levantine/Natufian and much less Iran_ChL. I am not even talking about other not Semitic auDNA components in Kurdistan.

    On academic PCA maps, Kurds plot much closer to CHG/Iran_ChL people, while Semitic Assyrians plot much closer to their other Semitic brethren.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8
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    Kurds vs. Assyrians vs. Iran_ChL

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    Last edited by Guti; 06-24-2022 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guti View Post
    Are you an idiot? Assyrian auDNA is by far more Semitic than Yezidi Kurdish auDNA.

    You are more Levantine/Natufian and much less Iran_ChL. I am not even talking about other not Semitic auDNA components in Kurdistan.

    On academic PCA maps, Kurds plot much closer to CHG/Iran_ChL people, while Semitic Assyrians plot much closer to their other Semitic brethren.



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8
    No, you are the idiot here.

    I showed you data from a research done a few years ago on all the minorities in Northern Mesopotamia including your own ethnic group, What is a better indicator of ancient ancestry than haplogroups?
    Do you not like the data, because it does not serve your agenda?
    What about showing us some of the artifacts/writings/carvings that your Aryan ancestors left behind in the lands that claim to belong to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    No, you are the idiot here.

    I showed you data from a research done a few years ago on all the minorities in Northern Mesopotamia including your own ethnic group, What is a better indicator of ancient ancestry than haplogroups?
    Do you not like the data, because it does not serve your agenda?
    What about showing us some of the artifacts/writings/carvings that your Aryan ancestors left behind in the lands that claim to belong to you?
    You are talking about the Y-DNA. Y-DNA is nothing. Indians have a lot R1a-Z93, nevertheless they are heavily Dravidian Hindu/Vedic people. There is also R1b in Africa.

    You can see here where the Ezdi Kurds plot and where the Assyrians plot. There are even other people such as Armenians plotting between the Semitic Assyrians and Aryan Ezdi Kurds. You are not even next to the Iranics. Once a Semite, always a Semite.

    Once again, more clear. Yezidi Kurds are purple, Assyrians are blue here.




    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8



    Btw, (Yezidi) Kurds plot between Trialeti/Steppe Maykop and Iran_ChL. NOTHING Semitic about them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guti View Post
    You are talking about the Y-DNA. Y-DNA is nothing. Indians have a lot R1a-Z93, nevertheless they are heavily Dravidian Hindu/Vedic people. There is also R1b in Africa.

    You can see here where the Ezdi Kurds plot and where the Assyrians plot. There are even other people such as Armenians plotting between the Semitic Assyrians and Aryan Ezdi Kurds. You are not even next to the Iranics. Once a Semite, always a Semite.

    Once again, more clear. Yezidi Kurds are purple, Assyrians are blue here.




    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8



    Btw, (Yezidi) Kurds plot between Trialeti/Steppe Maykop and Iran_ChL. NOTHING Semitic about them!
    Yeah right, we saw that from your history, here it is again : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikh_Adi_ibn_Musafir

    So you needed a Muslim/Arab/Semite to reform your religion/ethnicity per your saying earlier. You know only messed up ideologies need reforms.

    "Adī ibn Musāfir (Kurdish: شێخ ئادی, romanized: Şx Ad, Arabic: الشيخ عدي بن مسافر born 1072-1078, died 1162)[1] was a Muslim[2][3][4] sheikh of Arab origin,[5] considered a Yazidi saint.[6] The Yazidis consider him as an avatar of Taws Melek (also called Melek Tas), which means "Peacock Angel". His tomb at Lalish, Iraq is a focal point of Yazidi pilgrimage.[7][8]

    Biography
    Sheikh Adi was born in the 1070s in the village of Bait Far, in the Beqaa Valley of present-day Lebanon.[9] Adī's house of his birth is a place of pious pilgrimage to this day.[10] Descending from the family of Marwan I, the Caliph of the Umayyads, he was raised in a muslim environment.[9] His early life he spent in Baghdad, where he became a disciple of the Muslim mystic Ahmad Ghazali, among his fellow students in Ghazali's circle were the Muslim mystics Abu al-Najib Suhrawardi and Abdul Qadir Gilani;[11] with the latter he undertook a journey to Mecca.[1] With time he became a teacher himself.[12] He chose an ascetic way of life, left Baghdad and settled in Lalish.[13] Despite his desire for seclusion, he impressed the local population with his asceticism and miracles.[14][15] He became well known in present-day Iraq and Syria and disciples moved to the valley of Lalish to live close to Sheikh Adi. Following he founded the Adawiyya order.[16] The Valley of Lalish is located within the environs of the village of Ba'adra, 20 miles to the east of the Nestorian convent of Rabban-Hormizd.[17] Before he died, he named his successor his nephew Sakhr Abu l-Barakat.[18]

    Physically, he was said to be very tanned and of middle stature. He lived and ascetic lifestyle in the mountains in the region north of Mosul not far from the local Hakkari Kurds. As people flocked to his residency in the hills, he would end up founding a religious order later referred to as al-'Adawiyya ('the followers of 'Adi'). He died between 1162 CE (557 Hijra) and 1160 CE (555 Hijra)[1] in the hermitage that he had built with his followers in the mountain.

    According to some sources, he established the Sufi Adawiyya order.[19]

    Some Muslims respect him as one of the pioneers of asceticism and the scholars of Sufism who held firmly to the Quran and Sunnah.[20]"

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    You don't even know what you are talking about. What has 1 person to do with an Aryan race? The Yezidism is considered by the Iranologists as a true Aryan/Iranic religion. Even more pure than Zoroatrianism. Yezidi Kurds believed in Melek Taus thousands of years before Sheikh Adi.

    professor Philip G. Kreyenbroek about the Yezidism:

    "Yezidis are remnants of Iranian tribes who refused to be influenced by the Daeva cult or by Zarathustra"
    "Besides the group of early Iranians who came into direct contact with the Daeva cult and refused to bow to it, there were other tribes who continued to follow the ancient religion without being influenced by the Daeva cult or by Zarathustra."

    "These Iranians continued to worship in the traditional, pre-Zoroastrian manner, and only came into contact with Zoroastrianism much later, when Zoroastrianism became a dominant tradition in western parts of Iran under the Achaemenids. I believe that the cultures of the Yezidis and the Yarsan, most of who speak forms of Kurdish, have preserved features of that ancient religion."

    What is the importance of the dualism and conflict between light and darkness in Zoroastrianism and Yazidism?

    First of all, the term 'dualism' is only partly correct. Both religions believe in the existence of two 'spheres' 'this-worldly' (getig, zaher) and 'other-worldly' (menog, baten). In Zoroastrianism, the struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, true believers and demon worshippers, was felt to be very important. In Yazidism and Yarsanism, it is much less prominent. There, people believe that what happens in this world is ultimately in the hands of the 'Lord of this World' and humans can only do their best and try to understand the hidden (baten) reality behind the manifest (zaher).


    http://www.tehrantimes.com/news/4663...-be-influenced


    Yezidi Kurds are not even a little bit shifted toward the Semites. As you can see on that PCA map Yezidi Kurds are the same as Iran_ChL people only a little bit shifted toward the left, and actually plotting/overlapping together with the Late Maykop/Armenia Bronze Age samples.

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    Late Maykop




    You are just a butthurt Afro-Asiatic Semite, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guti View Post
    You don't even know what you are talking about. What has 1 person to do with an Aryan race? The Yezidism is considered by the Iranologists as a true Aryan/Iranic religion. Even more pure than Zoroatrianism. Yezidi Kurds believed in Melek Taus thousands of years before Sheikh Adi.

    professor Philip G. Kreyenbroek about the Yezidism:

    "Yezidis are remnants of Iranian tribes who refused to be influenced by the Daeva cult or by Zarathustra"
    "Besides the group of early Iranians who came into direct contact with the Daeva cult and refused to bow to it, there were other tribes who continued to follow the ancient religion without being influenced by the Daeva cult or by Zarathustra."

    "These Iranians continued to worship in the traditional, pre-Zoroastrian manner, and only came into contact with Zoroastrianism much later, when Zoroastrianism became a dominant tradition in western parts of Iran under the Achaemenids. I believe that the cultures of the Yezidis and the Yarsan, most of who speak forms of Kurdish, have preserved features of that ancient religion."

    What is the importance of the dualism and conflict between light and darkness in Zoroastrianism and Yazidism?

    First of all, the term 'dualism' is only partly correct. Both religions believe in the existence of two 'spheres' 'this-worldly' (getig, zaher) and 'other-worldly' (menog, baten). In Zoroastrianism, the struggle between good and evil, light and darkness, true believers and demon worshippers, was felt to be very important. In Yazidism and Yarsanism, it is much less prominent. There, people believe that what happens in this world is ultimately in the hands of the 'Lord of this World' and humans can only do their best and try to understand the hidden (baten) reality behind the manifest (zaher).


    http://www.tehrantimes.com/news/4663...-be-influenced


    Yezidi Kurds are not even a little bit shifted toward the Semites. As you can see on that PCA map Yezidi Kurds are the same as Iran_ChL people only a little bit shifted toward the left, and actually plotting/overlapping together with the Late Maykop/Armenia Bronze Age samples.

    Arm_BA


    Late Maykop




    You are just a butthurt Afro-Asiatic Semite, nothing more, nothing less.
    Yes, it is so obvious that your religion & Aryan culture is so perfect and superior that is why it took an Afro-Asiatic/Semite/Arab/Muslim to reform it

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    Quote Originally Posted by chinshen View Post
    Yes, it is so obvious that your religion & Aryan culture is so perfect and superior that is why it took an Afro-Asiatic/Semite/Arab/Muslim to reform it
    According to the Arabs and other enemies of the Yezidis, and the Yezidis have a lot enemies, he was an Arab. According to the Yezidis themselves he was an ethnic Kurd and that Arabs are faking his identity. Just like Arabs and Turks are trying to make Saladin (who was actually also an ethnic Yezidi Kurd) an Arab or a Turk.

    I don't really know who Sheikh Adi was. But if he was a Semitic Arab, than f*ck him and his whole Afro-Asian lineage.


    And you are just a fool.

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    Hey man. Would you happen to have any Belarusian & Udi Azerbaijan gedmatch kit ID's? Would really appreciate you sharing any with me.


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