View Poll Results: The most Slavic looking Balkanian country in your opinion is?

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  • Serbia

    32 17.88%
  • Bosnia

    11 6.15%
  • Croatia

    29 16.20%
  • Slovenia

    78 43.58%
  • Macedonia

    4 2.23%
  • Bulgaria

    8 4.47%
  • They are all equally the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Half, but genetically more Szekely than Transdanubian by far (I guess recombination can make it so). I see Videx gedmatch who is full Transdanubian and Stears is so much removed from her you wouldn't guess his other half is from there.
    He should test his Szekely parent to see how they compare to the Szekely mean. Related to you being interested in Moldovan genetics, I have a few Moldovan matches on 23andme, and their breakdown is similar to mine. Maybe I should try getting them to upload their data to gedmatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Pill View Post
    He should test his Szekely parent to see how they compare to the Szekely mean. Related to you being interested in Moldovan genetics, I have a few Moldovan matches on 23andme, and their breakdown is similar to mine. Maybe I should try getting them to upload their data to gedmatch.
    Yes I am trying to talk him to test his parents too Would be great to see Moldavian gedmatch results!

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    Mainland Greece.

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    Question is not about which nation is lightest, most northern plotting or most northern looking but about which one looks most Slavic.
    This is why I won't vote for Slovenia or Croatia.
    Slovenia is more Western shifted and has low amounts of the Baltids and Gorids common among West Slavs and even lower level of Neo-Danubians and East Baltids typical for East ones.
    My vote is for Serbs. To my eyes they represent a mix of native Balkan Dinaric and Slavic Gorid/Baltid looks with weak influences from other types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    My vote is for Serbs. To my eyes they represent a mix of native Balkan Dinaric and Slavic Gorid/Baltid looks with weak influences from other types.
    All south Slavs represent roughly such mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Question is not about which nation is lightest, most northern plotting or most northern looking but about which one looks most Slavic.
    This is why I won't vote for Slovenia or Croatia.
    Slovenia is more Western shifted and has low amounts of the Baltids and Gorids common among West Slavs and even lower level of Neo-Danubians and East Baltids typical for East ones.
    My vote is for Serbs. To my eyes they represent a mix of native Balkan Dinaric and Slavic Gorid/Baltid looks with weak influences from other types.
    from what I saw Bulgaria has even better Slavic types, it is less Dinaric and although has strong Pontic, well Pontic is very present in south Russians and Ukrainians. random groups of Bulgarians have better chances to pass in Slavic countries outside of the Balkans than random groups of Yugoslavs. I vote Bulgaria but if Romania would be in the poll I'd vote Romania - Moldova, Bucovina and northern half of Dobrudja regions are very Slavic looking. but then the south and especially Transylvania much less so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    All south Slavs represent roughly such mix.
    Proportions are different.
    Mediterranean element is dominant in Bulgaria and well-pronounced in Croatia.
    There are many Dinarids/Norids in all Balkan countries.
    Nordic looks are displayed everywhere but most common in Slovenia.
    Alpine element seems well-expressed in Slovenia and Croatia.
    CM seems common in most Balkan areas.
    To me Serbs are the most slavicized followed by Bosnians.
    Others are either more Mediterranean, or more pan-Euro, or more Western looking, or a combination of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo View Post
    from what I saw Bulgaria has even better Slavic types, it is less Dinaric and although has strong Pontic, well Pontic is very present in south Russians and Ukrainians. random groups of Bulgarians have better chances to pass in Slavic countries outside of the Balkans than random groups of Yugoslavs. I vote Bulgaria but if Romania would be in the poll I'd vote Romania - Moldova, Bucovina and northern half of Dobrudja regions are very Slavic looking. but then the south and especially Transylvania much less so...
    I get the point about Pontids but, while present in Ukraine and Russia, they are far from the average looks in these states.
    And ancient Slavs weren't of Mediterranean type. The Baltoid/Neo-Danubian looks got to rise from the Medieval period onward, as the Scythian and Varangian dominated Nordic upper and warrior class suffered a lot of casualties fighting other tribes and also due to the input of Finno-Ugric blood in Slavic peoples, as Hans Günther points out:
    "The graves of the Old Slavs from the times of the wandering of the peoples show a ruling class which is still almost purely Nordic. It may be taken that the north and west Slavs were mainly Nordic into the twelfth century. Then, however, owing to contra-selection among the warrior ruling classes, the conquest through the birth-rate by the East Baltic race among the north and west Slavs, and by the Dinaric race among the south Slavs, must have had its beginning, and soon have become definitive. This racial change has also made itself felt in the speech: the assertion has been made that there is an inward change in the Russian tongue towards the Finnish-Ugrian group.
    The Nordic upper classes, too, of Germanic descent, who at the disappearance of the Nordic classes of the Old Slavs, once more strengthened the Nordic blood of the peoples of Slav speech, passed away again. In the border fighting against the German tribes it was the Nordic leaders of the Slavs who fell, while the less Nordic Slav lower class, after the German recovery of the districts east of the Elbe, gradually took over the German tongue, and in the end -- in spite of the defence made through centuries by the German municipal laws against the intruding 'Slav' blood -- as it was bound to be, brought their East Baltic and Alpine blood into the body of the German people. The denordization of the peoples of Slav speech, however, even to-day has not gone so far in the districts about the Baltic as the denordization of the peoples of Romance speech, except perhaps for the northern French. It has been shown how, from the mouth of the Vistula, of the Neva, and, above all, of the Dwina, Nordic blood still goes far into the Slav districts. The establishment of the Polish State about A.D. 1000 was started from the north Polish districts, those with most Nordic blood."
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    Croats are not Western looking. Gorids and Neo Danubians are common as hell here.
    We have no Western European influence at all genetically except northwest.
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    Slovenia and Croatia.

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