Russian expert predicts the division of Croatia between Hungary and Serbia

[Victor]

I love Russian classical music, but paintings don't interest me. Also classical literature. My matura essay was analysis of Crime and Punishment. Etc.
But yeah, that wasn't main thing. I like Russia, find it fascinating and have good personal experience with Russian people irl and online, unlike with some other nations.

It depends on individuals.

I have odd and often negative experiences with Polish people online and irl and that's probably anomaly since many people I know have only good things to say about Poles and love them.

Well, I personaly have far better relationship with Russians and that's where my sympathies lie.

Considering my love to Serbia where I lived, I should hate Croatians, which is not true, that would be retarded.

[Jana]

Considering my love to Serbia where I lived, I should hate Croatians, which is not true, that would be retarded.

Yeah, I never got that vibe from you and I know how much you love Serbia. You are a very decent man.
I don't even hate Serbia and hope relations will normalize in the future, although right now it is unlikely.

One can love one country without hating others.

[Victor]

I love Russian classical music, but paintings don't interest me. Also classical literature. My matura essay was analysis of Crime and Punishment. Etc.
But yeah, that wasn't main thing. I like Russia, find it fascinating and have good personal experience with Russian people irl and online, unlike with some other nations.

It depends on individuals.

I have odd and often negative experiences with Polish people online and irl and that's probably anomaly since many people I know have only good things to say about Poles and love them.

Well, I personaly have far better relationship with Russians and that's where my sympathies lie.

I have different experience with Balkan people, considering that I was not an angel in my 20-30 years old I never had some false expectations, I normally know you can expect everything everywhere from everyone. I know lots of Balkan people from thugs to professors, you either avoid someone or behave one way or another with different people. At the same time I know some turbopatriotic Russians like one guy who first came to Serbia and got his wallet normally stolen at Zemun and he started almost hating Serbia. I can't believe that people over 12 years old still exist in the world of pink ponies.

[Jana]

Btw if there's going to be a war in the region Hungary will not be neutral for sure. Many hungarian is pro-russian, but even the non pro-russian hungarians dont like Ukraine. I have seen an opinion polling and nowadays ukrainans have much worse reputation in Hungary than romanians. To getting Subcarpathia would cause huge ecstasy in the hungarian society. The trauma of Trianon is too deeply rooted in the peoples. Hungarians will never give up to reclaim these areas, neither the governments, if they cant get them in military way then they will get it in economical way, but everyone wants revision. In the schools every kid learns what is the real hungarian borders, everyone knows the hungarian name of slovak, transylvanian etc cities, villages. So if Orbán would has chance to get any area he would order the army to attack. Im 100% sure about it.

I don't see motivation in Hungary for reconquest of Trianon lost regions, ignoring the unlikeness of such adventure (economic, political consequences).
Hungarian youth is too westernized, they will rather buy a Mercedes and vacation on Mallorca than leave their bones to re-gain shithole like Transcarpathia.

[Jankec]

In Croatia, there is a similar situation, after the destruction of agriculture, forest fires became a problem, because the grass in the fields dries up in August and this leads to an instant fire spread, which then goes to mountain forests, where it is very difficult to extinguish it.

What is the last non-toxic Russian "regime"? The Provisional Government of Lvov and Kerensky or the toothless era of Yeltsin?

We in Croatia generally have had worse experiences with our own "businessmen" (so called taycoons) and Russian oligarchs than with western investigators. For example, the biggest Croatian company in retail and food industry was owned by one corrupted and incompetent businessman who wanted to borrow a lot of money. Most banks and financial institutions didn't want to give him a loans because they knew it was a very risky business and he probably couldn't return it. But Russian state own "Sberbank" and other Russian banks gave him loans although they also knew it. They only wanted to take over his companies, spread their toxic influence and blackmail Croatia (and other neighbouring countries) with unemployment, crises and shortages (or even famine, well known Russian politics from tsarist and Soviet period).

Second example, Hungarian state owned and controlled oil company "MOL" has taken over only Croatian oil company "INA". This business is connected with corruption and crime and it was judged at the court. Hungarians have closed one of two Croatian refineries in Sisak and they always threat that they will close another in Rijeka. They also pull out money from the company, reduce investments and maintain high prices. As I mentioned, MOL is Hungarian state owned and controlled company and it is well known that Hungarian president is Putin's bff. In my opinion, Russian money was behind purchase of INA and Russian influence is obvious. Russians also control oil and gas production and trade.

The biggest Croatian steel factory "Željezara Sisak" was purchased by Russian company "Mečelj" and closed only a year later. Production has started again after that with new Western owners, but in far lesser extent.

There are of course a lot of money laundering by Russian oligarchs who buy villas and yachts on Croatian seashore, but it is secondary problem.

About Russian regimes, none was good, but most of them were better than recent. Even Soviet leaders like Khruschov and Brezhnev didn't threat with nuclear weapon on daily basis and they also had some ideals, cared about science, investigations etc. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't kill so many political opponents (well known teas with polonium and novichok) like Putin.

[Jankec]

He probably think that Croatia will be on the wrong side of history in WW3, unlike Serbia and Hungary. In other words Croatia will be on the defeated NATO side in NATO-Russian war. Croatia is part of EU and NATO, and politics of official Zagreb is heavy anti-Russian last years especially months. On the other hand Hungary is in EU and NATO, but regardless of that Hungary is quite pro-Russian for one NATO/EU member. Hungary is Russian "Trojan horse" in NATO. Turkey and Bulgaria can also become Russian "Trojan horse" in NATO. Serbian is not member of EU and NATO, and never will be.

In Croatia doesn't exist nationalism which is not ustashian, anti-Serbian and anti-Russian as serious political force. Ivan Pernar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_P...an,_born_1985)) as anti-globalist with pro-Russian attitudes (he also is not against Serbs) is politically marginalized.

Ako dođe do trećeg svjetskog rata, jedino će srpski i mađarski žohari (srpski bubašvabe) moći crtati granice s hrvatskim. Mnogo si bre glup.

[Jana]

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All of this is fault of greedy and corrupted Croatian politicians and nobody else.

1) Case of INA. INA was sold because Hungarians bribed Croatian PM Ivo Sanader. Who forced him to sell most strategic company for pitiful million Euros? That's why he sits in jail.
You think Orban would have sold MOL for million Euros to Austrians for eg? Don't make me laugh.

Additionaly, my father was employee of INA for years. It was terribly run, communist era mastodont with thousands of extra workers who did nothing and enormous amounts of money was getting stolen from INA on daily basis. It was terribly ran state company and a gold mine to rob. Who did that? It's Croatian menagers, intertwined with highest politics.

MOL is better ran than INA was. And their closing rafineries in Sisak has nothing to do with being "evil" but with the fact this are outdated socialist era things that only collect losses and pollute environment. New owners wish to be competitive and expect profit, not loses, imagine that....welcome to capitalism.

Rafinery in Rijeka is closed for years, thanks God, whole city smelled on rotten eggs when it was working.

Better pray we never buy INA back, that would be biggest populist mistake somebody can do, it's a bottomless hole and a tax payers money-stealing poligon.

2) western investors are not always better than eastern ones, although in vast majority of cases they are (see Romania-Serbia comparison)
However, here we get often shady, third rate western investments that probably come here due to lawnessless and corruption.

Reputable firms will go to Czechia or Estonia or something like that.

"My" firm is representing Croatian people who got robbed of their homes by Austrian savings institutions that operated in Croatia de facto illegaly.
It's a organized crime on highest level. They gave fishy credits to credit-illiterates and later take their homes on auctions, than buy them from banks for nothing and re sell for enormous profit.

Here are your facts.

old article about the topic: https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrva...prevare-685807

[Blondie]

I don't see motivation in Hungary for reconquest of Trianon lost regions, ignoring the unlikeness of such adventure (economic, political consequences).
Hungarian youth is too westernized, they will rather buy a Mercedes and vacation on Mallorca than leave their bones to re-gain shithole like Transcarpathia.

They are liberal in Budapest but not in countryside. But no need to recruit youths, the army is enough. The hungarian army was modernized in the last few years, with the best and most advanced weapons, tools, tanks, artillery etc. Im sure there will be tons of volunteers too, you would be surprised. This is the wet dream of every hungarian right winger to march to these areas. Revisionism is integral part of hungarian identity, just like the pizza in Italy or the vodka in Russia. In the school the teacher explains that where is the hungarian sea (Dalmatia), why Slovakia and Transylvania are hungarian territory etc etc and the 6-7 old hungarian kids grew up in this society and nationalist atmosphere. Trust me tons of hungarians would die for Subcarpathia just like in the WW2, when hungarians have fought until the last bullet and people to defend these reclaimed areas.

[Jankec]

All of this is fault of greedy and corrupted Croatian politicians and nobody else.

1) Case of INA. INA was sold because Hungarians bribed Croatian PM Ivo Sanader. Who forced him to sell most strategic company for pitiful million Euros? That's why he sits in jail.
You think Orban would have sold MOL for million Euros to Austrians for eg? Don't make me laugh.

Additionaly, my father was employee of INA for years. It was terribly run, communist era mastodont with thousands of extra workers who did nothing and enormous amounts of money was getting stolen from INA on daily basis. It was terribly ran state company and a gold mine to rob. Who did that? It's Croatian menagers, intertwined with highest politics.

MOL is better ran than INA was. And their closing rafineries in Sisak has nothing to do with being "evil" but with the fact this are outdated socialist era things that only collect losses and pollute environment. New owners wish to be competitive and expect profit, not loses, imagine that....welcome to capitalism.

Rafinery in Rijeka is closed for years, thanks God, whole city smelled on rotten eggs when it was working.

Better pray we never buy INA back, that would be biggest populist mistake somebody can do, it's a bottomless hole and a tax payers money-stealing poligon.

2) western investors are not always better than eastern ones, although in vast majority of cases they are (see Romania-Serbia comparison)
However, here we get often shady, third rate western investments that probably come here due to lawnessless and corruption.

Reputable firms will go to Czechia or Estonia or something like that.

"My" firm is representing Croatian people who got robbed of their homes by Austrian savings institutions that operated in Croatia de facto illegaly.
It's a organized crime on highest level. They gave fishy credits to credit-illiterates and later take their homes on auctions, than buy them from banks for nothing and re sell for enormous profit.

Here are your facts.

old article about the topic: https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrva...prevare-685807

Hungarians are obviously humanitarians who have bought failed company. Maybe we can give them more stuff. I don't negate other that you wrote, about Croatian corruption and existence of bed western investments.

[Jankec]

Trust me tons of hungarians would die for Subcarpathia just like in the WW2, when hungarians have fought until the last bullet and people to defend these reclaimed areas.

It is clear that you didn't experience war and have no clue what it means. Btw. in "Subcarpathia" live 10% Hungarians.