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    Default Should the Australian continent be re-colonized by y-dna D-M174?

    The Australian continent has been settled in a number of waves, first by Denisovans, Neanderthals and some archaic form of Homo Erectus along with numerous other archaic hominid species like Homo Floresiensis and so on. Today they contribute approximately 10% of their genes to the native Aboriginal Australian and Papuan people. Then came the humans, homo sapiens, in the form of primitive tribes of y-dna D which first settled the islands of south-east Asia and then came y-dna C1 settling Indonesia, Papua, Australia and Polynesia. Both were followed by mtdna M in a coastal migration. Later came y-dna K which diverged in site into y-dna M, S and various other subclades. Finally came y-dna O, a subclade of K formerly diverged in southeast Asia, which settled the majority of the former lands, primarily with the linguistic family of Austronesian languages prevailing in Taiwan, Philippines, the Indonesian archipelago, Polynesia and Madagascar. Those were followed by mtdna N.

    VOS languages are most common in the Australian continent, including the Andamanese languages, some languages in Sumatra, Madagascar, some aboriginal Taiwanese languages, Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands and native languages in southeast Australia. Like other YAP subclades, D prefers putting the verb in the beginning of a sentence, similarly to E which prefers the VSO word order. On the other side, F prefers SVO word order and finally C prefers SOV word order.

    Now on the classification of y-dna D subclades, which constitute only 2% of the world's y-dna haplogroup share, there is D1a1a-M15 in China, D1a1b-P47 in Tibet and D1a2a-M55 in Japan. However, in East Asia, there is an overwhelming presence of y-dna O which also explains for the largest language families there, like Sino-Tibetan, Koreanic, Japonic, Austroasiatic etc.

    Australia should be settled by D-M15 Chinese, Papua by D-P47 Tibetans, New Zealand by D-M55 Japanese. Andamanese have already D1a2b-Y34637 and Philippinese possess D1b-L1378 in a very small frequency. Also, the newly founded subclade of D2-A5580.2 from the Arabian peninsula could go to Antarctica. In a majority, the climate zones of the departure points generally correlate for the climate zones of the new destinations. Pretty much like the Australian continent separated from Africa breaking away from Gondwana, likewise for E and D. Like discussed in a previous thread how America separated from Eurasia breaking away from Laurasia and thereby likewise for C and F.

    What do you think? Isn't the migration of y-dna D uncompleted and Australia lonely?

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    What has D better than their own haplogroup C???
    C is a closer haplogroup!!!

    The problem isn't that, the problem is that they aren't Eurasians, they have "tropical stagnation", they're unbelievable dark, they have that eyebrow protuberance, they mixed with M, and haven't barely changed since they started hunting little fishes, they're like a zillion different groups scavaging their little terrain...

    And I could keep on for days. Their problem isn't C or K('MS haplogroups).
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    Australia is in the process of transforming from a majority European population to an East-Asian/South-Asian hybrid.

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    True. It feels like D is more native to the area, like Southeast Asian islands, while C can be found in many other places like East Asia, Central Asia, Siberia and America.
    Although for D this holds true linguistically more than it does ethnically for Oceania, where a multitude of languages is being spoken by various tribes, when as a haplogroup it can be found in East Asia.

    In a way, having those East Asian populations coming in Australia facilitates this process.
    East Asia has way more diversity in haplogroups and complex shortcomings that other regions of the world.

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    D was not shown in Australia and New Zealand, some islands are not ware to humans until Austronesian expansions,C was inhabitanted Australia but not New Zealand before Austronesian expansion,D was completely absent in These areas.
    D was in Andamanese islands,China,Japan,thats about it.Some argue there once were negrito in Taiwan,now extinct,perhaps D,or K,There were K negrito also.

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    Indeed. However, if it can not be realized, it will soon go extinct in both Tibet and Japan in the same way it has been in China and the Philippines. The workflow of haplogroup mechanics is not very generous. And in the most likely scenario, D will be stabilized from 0.1-1.1% across Eurasia.

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    You think Aborigines as well as having neanderthal and denisovan admixture, also have erectus too ?

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    Erectus was the ancestor of both Neanderthal and Denisovans, as well as Humans. And southeast Asia was the region from where it recolonized Eurasia, Oceania and the Americas. But it has not been detected in Australian Aborigines in such a form.

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    What if Australia was colonized by a bunch of Englishmen with haplogroup D-M174?

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