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    Default Why is the gap in levels of corruption between Germany and Italy so substantial?

    Despite the fact that Germany and Italy are (1) both High Income developed nations and (2) at least at their southernmost and northernmost respective extremes not that far apart geographically, the gap in their perceived levels of corruption is immense. According to Transparency International's annual Corruption Perceptions Index, Germany's latest score is 8.0, and it is the 10th least corrupt country in the world, whereas Italy's latest score is 5.6 (during Berlusconi's time it was much worse) and, jointly with Poland and St Lucia, it is the 42nd least corrupt country in the world (albeit second only to Greece in being the most corrupt country within Western Europe).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrup...ceptions_Index

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    If you think Germany is not a super corrupt and corrupted country, then trololol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    If you think Germany is not a super corrupt and corrupted country, then trololol.
    Well I do remember the Volkswagen emissions scandal. And doubtless corruption both in Germany and some other parts of Europe is under-reported and underappreciated. Still, it is evasive to think it remotely compares to Italy in this respect.

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    It must be because Germany does not investigate his corruption enough.

    On the other hand, it is clear that corruption in Italy is due to German immigrants.

    There is also the variant of the different personalities of the Germans and Italians, Germans are very embarrassed to reveal their mistakes, so they do everything possible to hide their corruption, while the Italians make public even the smallest unimportant nonsense, and also as they exaggerate a lot, they increase the seriousness of really unimportant things.

    Another reason is the climate, the number of daylight hours, the influence of the spoken language on the conformation of the brain, the proximity of Africa, and of course, the racial mixture of each of these two countries.

    How much money do you want to delete this thread?

    Corruption Perception Index sounds a very subjetive thing... you know?

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    It must be because Germany does not investigate his corruption enough.

    On the other hand, it is clear that corruption in Italy is due to German immigrants.

    There is also the variant of the different personalities of the Germans and Italians, Germans are very embarrassed to reveal their mistakes, so they do everything possible to hide their corruption, while the Italians make public even the smallest unimportant nonsense, and also as they exaggerate a lot, they increase the seriousness of really unimportant things.

    Another reason is the climate, the number of daylight hours, the influence of the spoken language on the conformation of the brain, the proximity of Africa, and of course, the racial mixture of each of these two countries.

    How much money do you want to delete this thread?

    Corruption Perception Index sounds a very subjetive thing... you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    It must be because Germany does not investigate his corruption enough.
    That is surely part of the explanation, but still a very evasive one like I said to CV.

    On the other hand, it is clear that corruption in Italy is due to German immigrants.
    LOL.

    There is also the variant of the different personalities of the Germans and Italians, Germans are very embarrassed to reveal their mistakes, so they do everything possible to hide their corruption, while the Italians make public even the smallest unimportant nonsense, and also as they exaggerate a lot, they increase the seriousness of really unimportant things.
    Well it is true that Germans tend to be more reserved whereas Italians tend to be louder and more gregarious, but that isn't the same as evaluating their respective propensities to (dis)honesty and obedience to the law.

    Another reason is the climate, the number of daylight hours, the influence of the spoken language on the conformation of the brain, the proximity of Africa, and of course, the racial mixture of each of these two countries.
    The ghost of Madison Grant hasn't died I see...

    Corruption Perception Index sounds a very subjetive thing... you know?
    Yes, but the surveys use important transnational organisations that have much experience in doing business and having to deal with public servants in different countries.

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    It has nothing to do with it but I remember that one of the prime ministers of Iceland had to resign because they discovered that he was corrupt, I wonder if that would be possible in a big country like the United Kingdom, France or Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    That is surely part of the explanation, but still a very evasive one like I said to CV.
    Just kidding Tooting.

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