How is Europe going to replace Russian gas?

[Jana]

Most of gas will be imported from Arab countries according to what I have read. It will be more costly. It will mostly come via sea-LNG terminals.
Luckily we have one in Croatia and further expansion is planned.

[Hasien]

Most of gas will be imported from Arab countries according to what I have read. It will be more costly. It will mostly come via sea-LNG terminals.
Luckily we have one in Croatia and further expansion is planned.

Or they can start making business/friendship with Latin american countries Venezuela , Cuba and Mexico have lots of oil.

[Insuperable]

Spain and Portugal will not have gas supply problems, if required this could be imported as liquid by ship directly to the storage and regasification plants. The infrastructure is oversized so it could supply the rest of Europe, but there are no connections



It is obvious that Iberia is going to be the gateway for gas from America, so they should start thinking about creating gas pipelines to central Europe

https://tvpworld.com/60127386/argent...rope-via-spain

American liquifed gas shipped by tankers is still an expensive option for the rest of Europe. Even more so if you need to build non-existent pipelines.

Russia supplies gas to the rest of Europe was a good deal. Too bad a dumb cold war between the US and Russia ruined it.

I see no way of lowerig energy price in Europe. I hope EU officials find a solution. High energy prices raise prices for everything.

[Hektor12]

Caspian gas is the most rational option for Europe by far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_pipeline

Reasons of failure
The main reasons of Nabucco’s failure were political rather than commercial. Moscow was able to safeguard its dominant market share in Central and Eastern Europe and then pressured most of these countries to support Gazprom’s South Stream pipeline, a rival to Nabucco. Nabucco pipeline lacked the necessary political and diplomatic support from both the EU and the United States to overcome pressures from Russia and Gazprom. The European Union failed to recall Moscow’s tendency to use its gas reserves as a bargaining chip in negotiations. In the sight of the need to apply sanctions to Russia in response to the 2022 year Ukraine invasion this was rather unfortunate.[103]

Italy was smart enough to support TANAP project and now they dont have any gas problem. If central & west Europe give up with being idiot, theres a great opportunity over there. Now we can assume after the Karabakh war theres no problem left with direct pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey through armenia, which is far from Russian artillery range unlike Georgian route.

[gixajo]

Caspian gas is the most rational option for Europe by far.

Italy was smart enough to support TANAP project and now they dont have any gas problem. If central & west Europe give up with being idiot, theres a great opportunity over there. Now we can assume after the Karabakh war theres no problem left with direct pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey through armenia, which is far from Russian artillery range unlike Georgian route.

The gas from this pipeline is supplied by Russia or by countries controlled or likely to be controlled by Russia. Same problem.

Even the supply of Europe through Spain can have problems with our supplier countries, because Algeria is a traditional ally of Russia.

We have had last months a diplomatic war with Morocco and Algeria alternatively for all this (Morocco is supported by US) Algeria and Morocco are usually clashed over territorial issues.

Is a similar problem than Germany. Morocco would be our Ukrainia (pipelines shortest way to arrive Spain and supported by US) and Algeria would be our Russia (gas producer and politically pro-Russian traditionally).

We have in our favor that they both want to get along with France, and if they want to help France, that gas has to go through Spain.

[gixajo]

Caspian gas is the most rational option for Europe by far.

Italy was smart enough to support TANAP project and now they dont have any gas problem. If central & west Europe give up with being idiot, theres a great opportunity over there. Now we can assume after the Karabakh war theres no problem left with direct pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey through armenia, which is far from Russian artillery range unlike Georgian route.

But the pipeline that is really interesting is that projected pipeline that would reach Europe and cross the eastern Mediterranean through Cyprus, Crete, Greece and then to Italy, and that could supply Europe with gas from the Gulf and Middle Eastern countries.

There is always the option of bringing the gas in gas carriers, but at a much higher price.

[oszkar07]

American liquifed gas shipped by tankers is still an expensive option for the rest of Europe. Even more so if you need to build non-existent pipelines.

Russia supplies gas to the rest of Europe was a good deal. Too bad a dumb cold war between the US and Russia ruined it.

I see no way of lowerig energy price in Europe. I hope EU officials find a solution. High energy prices raise prices for everything.

Perhaps the provocation and influenced escalation was by design to do just that

[Hektor12]

But the pipeline that is really interesting is that projected pipeline that would reach Europe and cross the eastern Mediterranean through Cyprus, Crete, Greece and then to Italy, and that could supply Europe with gas from the Gulf and Middle Eastern countries.

One of the most idiotic projects in the history and another attempt from Greece to isolate Turkey. What a high IQ showcase..

In January 2022, the United States announced withdrawal of support as the project is not seen as economically viable or environmentally friendly, meaning the project is likely to be cancelled and replaced with an energy connection between Egypt and Greece.[25] U.S. House of Representatives members, Gus Bilirakis (R-Florida) and Nicole Malliotakis (R-New York), have questioned the Biden administrations reversal on the project in view of Europe's deepening dependency on Russian gas.[26]

Its simply not worth investment apart from creating jobs in Greece and dumping more EU taxpayer money there.

The gas from this pipeline is supplied by Russia or by countries controlled or likely to be controlled by Russia. Same problem.

Its old proposal. Currently, Caspian gas field was enlarged. Although its problematic, Iran gas could be also added. For Azerbaijan and Central Asian countries; theyre of course tied to Russia by oil and gas technology but this is not a great problem. Azerbaijan rapidly transforming into a western-friendly country. As everbody knows, we have almost unite military and theyre escaping from Soviet & Russian custody. This year, Kazakstan made several statements againt Russia and condemned Russian invasion of Ukraine. This countries can be secured by Turkey, of course with support from EU.

[gixajo]

One of the most idiotic projects in the history and another attempt from Greece to isolate Turkey. What a high IQ showcase..


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Always in interesting have several independent suppliers at the same time, nothing idiotic about this.

And most considering that more than to isolate Turkey could have been because Greece need to have an alternative pipeline not depending on Turkey.

Because let's not fool ourselves, Turkey could seek its benefit against Europe if necessary in a next future, something understandable and licit taking into account that Turkey has always aspired to be relevant as an independent regional power, and it has every right as a sovereign nation to take care of its own interests by allying itself at all times with whoever it wants.

In other words, Turkey is not at all a reliable partner for Europe, much less for Greece.

[Gredos]

American liquifed gas shipped by tankers is still an expensive option for the rest of Europe. Even more so if you need to build non-existent pipelines.

Russia supplies gas to the rest of Europe was a good deal. Too bad a dumb cold war between the US and Russia ruined it.

I see no way of lowerig energy price in Europe. I hope EU officials find a solution. High energy prices raise prices for everything.

US gas is expensive, in Spain it is 40% more expensive than the one that comes from Russia. But Argentina has the second largest reserves in the world, they say they could supply gas to Europe without limit, and since Spain is interested in not depending on Algeria, presumably it would be cheap gas. It must necessarily be cheap gas to compete, perhaps it would not be much more expensive than the Russian. In any case, it is better to have alternatives to dependence on a country in Africa or Asia that will always use it to blackmail.

The problem is that they do not have the infrastructure to liquefy the gas, and it would take years and money.