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    I think they don't teach about this in anglo schools.
    Only how they destroyed 'La armada invencible' without despairing.









    Why you should take lessons of history?.

    Propaganda is much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    I think they don't teach about this in anglo schools.
    Only how they destroyed 'La armada invencible' without despairing.

    Why you should take lessons of history?.

    Propaganda is much better.
    Ya usé lo de la contraarmada alguna vez que sacaron a relucir lo de la Armada Invencible, pasan olímpicamente.

    In Spanish:

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invencible_Inglesa

    In English:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Armada

    This video is quite good, but is in Spanish.

    As the speaker says, the battle that Spain lost was the battle of propaganda.


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    Get over it, you lost.
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    You want to see propaganda? You should see the Balkans and this is repeated in books, western history etc.

    They claim in 1690 there were almost no Albanians in Kosovo and that after a "Serbian" revolt hundreds of thousands of Serbs left Kosovo and replaced by Albanians

    Yet when we look at the sources from 1690 not only were there a lot of Albanians but the people that revolted against Ottomans were in fact Albanian!!! They took these Albanians and changed them in to Serb basically. Then they claimed all the refugees that settled Vojvodina had come from Kosovo when in fact many came from Serbia and other areas . Just an example of fabrication of history that has become popular

    Such as Turkish traveller Evliya Celebi traveling Kosovo in the 1660s described western/ central Kosovo as inhabited by Albanians yet they claim there were almost no Albanians there before 1690

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    The portuguese navy should have never been involved in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rædwald View Post
    Get over it, you lost.
    Get over it, you were fooled by your propaganda, and still you're fooled by it.

    Except this guy maybe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rædwald View Post
    Get over it, you lost.
    Actually we did not lose, in the London treaty it was agreed to leave everything as it was before the Anglo-Spanish war began(Status quo ante bellum), and the English had more total losses of men and ships.

    The Spanish hegemony still lasted about a century both in Europe and in America, and the Spanish empire about three more centuries.

    The famous "captains" Francis Drake and John Hawkins, died during this war by Spanish hands.

    Those who really lost were, for example, your Scottish ancestors, who saw how their queen was beheaded and the Catholic religion that was their traditional faith was gradually supplanted by a new religion invented to give all power to the king or queen of England.

    I don´t know if you have also Irish ancestors, but Drake was the responsible of Rathlin Island massacre BTW.

    The Armada Invencible target was helping intended to establish a Catholic king in England, Philip II did not claim to be the king, simply to continue Catholicism in the British Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizz View Post
    You want to see propaganda? You should see the Balkans and this is repeated in books, western history etc.

    They claim in 1690 there were almost no Albanians in Kosovo and that after a "Serbian" revolt hundreds of thousands of Serbs left Kosovo and replaced by Albanians

    Yet when we look at the sources from 1690 not only were there a lot of Albanians but the people that revolted against Ottomans were in fact Albanian!!! They took these Albanians and changed them in to Serb basically. Then they claimed all the refugees that settled Vojvodina had come from Kosovo when in fact many came from Serbia and other areas . Just an example of fabrication of history that has become popular

    Such as Turkish traveller Evliya Celebi traveling Kosovo in the 1660s described western/ central Kosovo as inhabited by Albanians yet they claim there were almost no Albanians there before 1690
    Propaganda was and is used as a political weapon since always and everywhere, it's very effective, and cheap.

    Everybody with ambition should master propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    I don´t know if you have also Irish ancestors, but Drake was the responsible of Rathlin Island massacre BTW.
    My mind went straight to the drownings of scores of helpless women when I saw "Drake". I'm descended from McDonnells in Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    Propaganda was and is used as a political weapon since always and everywhere, it's very effective, and cheap.

    Everybody with ambition should master propaganda.
    "Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state" - Noam Chomsky.

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