what does this language sound like to you

[Melonman]

Has an Arabic-sounding base, but I can hear what reminds me of Indian and Turkic influence

Another one with the arabic, but indian influence doesnt Sound suprising. Its more the turkis one, thats new to me.
Just for the fun of it, if you dont mind and Can answer this question, could you treat arabic, turkic and indic as components, and make estimate what pashto is made of each by percentage according to your ears? Like example 70% arabic, 20% indic and rest is turkic? You g’et me, right?

[Zoro]

Getting responses such as Arabic or Turkish should tell you that people here aren’t familiar with pashto. You should ask Pashtuns that question and the ones familiar with Iranic languages will tell you Kurdish (Sorani Kurdish sounds a bit closer than Badini Kurdish) from the Iranic languages

Here’s a Sorani kurdish drama. Take a listen












Reason Kurdish sounds closest to Pashto is both kurds and pashtuns have alot of Parthian/Scythian ancestry

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Different Kurdish languages are very different from each other. If you want to know about differences

[Melonman]

Getting responses such as Arabic or Turkish should tell you that people here aren’t familiar with pashto. You should ask Pashtuns that question and the ones familiar with Iranic languages will tell you Kurdish (Sorani Kurdish sounds a bit closer than Badini Kurdish) from the Iranic languages

Here’s a Sorani kurdish drama. Take a listen












Reason Kurdish sounds closest to Pashto is both kurds and pashtuns have alot of Parthian/Scythian ancestry

www.Eurasiandna.com


Different Kurdish languages are very different from each other. If you want to know about differences

I know, its just interesting to hear answers from people on pashto.

I agree with the afghan guys, pashto and sorani kurdish sound more like each other, compared to any other languages. Difference is that pashto has lots of r-sounds, so it sounds signficantly indic to some degree. I shown wanetsi dialect to several people, and they all said it either sounds like an indo-aryan language, to indo-aryan mixed with russian or semetic(asked kurds too).
I guess other pashto dialects has more persian compared to wanetsi pashto?


And yes, kurdish dialects sounds different to each other. I barely felt any similiarity with kurmanji kurdish(though some kurds odd enough thinks that pashto sounds like kurmanji dialect somewhat) unlike sorani. But sorani lacks so much r-sounds, the kind of retroflexes pashto has

Not gonna ask pashtuns though, they can be biased

[Zoro]

I know, its just interesting to hear answers from people on pashto.

I agree with the afghan guys, pashto and sorani kurdish sound more like each other, compared to any other languages. Difference is that pashto has lots of r-sounds, so it sounds signficantly indic to some degree. I shown wanetsi dialect to several people, and they all said it either sounds like an indo-aryan language, to indo-aryan mixed with russian or semetic(asked kurds too).
I guess other pashto dialects has more persian compared to wanetsi pashto?


And yes, kurdish dialects sounds different to each other. I barely felt any similiarity with kurmanji kurdish(though some kurds odd enough thinks that pashto sounds like kurmanji dialect somewhat) unlike sorani. But sorani lacks so much r-sounds, the kind of retroflexes pashto has

Not gonna ask pashtuns though, they can be biased

Yes the retroflex is missing in kurdish. It gets stronger as you go to eastern pashto than southern which tells me maybe they picked it up from Indic languages unless it’s an ancient thing

That’s odd Why would pashtuns be biased against middle eastern languages?

[Melonman]

Yes the retroflex is missing in kurdish. It gets stronger as you go to eastern pashto than southern which tells me maybe they picked it up from Indic languages unless it’s an ancient thing

That’s odd Why would pashtuns be biased against middle eastern languages?

wanetsi is in balochistan, and doubt its from indic languages. Must be an ancient thing, and south dialects are heavily persian influenced. Some iranians even felt similiarity to sha dialect, and thought it sounded similiar to southeast persian dialect.


Us pashtuns dont like to admit that our language sounds significantly indic, although it does(due to its retroflexes, unlike ironically indo-aryan languages such as kalashi and koshuri kashmiri), so they would rather claim pashto has similiarities with kurdish, but not indic languages

[Zoro]

wanetsi is in balochistan, and doubt its from indic languages. Must be an ancient thing, and south dialects are heavily persian influenced. Some iranians even felt similiarity to sha dialect, and thought it sounded similiar to southeast persian dialect.


Us pashtuns dont like to admit that our language sounds significantly indic, although it does(due to its retroflexes, unlike ironically indo-aryan languages such as kalashi and koshuri kashmiri), so they would rather claim pashto has similiarities with kurdish, but not indic languages

Urdu and Punjabi do share words with pashto that they don’t share with kurdish or farsi but it maybe loan words because of distance. On the other hand urdu shares stuff with farsi or kurdish that it doesn’t share with pashto. But the retroflex is punjabi,urdu pashto thing

[Melonman]

Urdu and Punjabi do share words with pashto that they don’t share with kurdish or farsi but it maybe loan words because of distance. On the other hand urdu shares stuff with farsi or kurdish that it doesn’t share with pashto. But the retroflex is punjabi,urdu pashto thing

shared words would just be persian, or pashtu influence on urdu(unless its a dialect from khyber, then its opposite)

Either way, the r-retroflexes makes pashto sound very different to kurdish, and more like urdu and punjabi, at least wanetsi dialect(sha dialect has more a persian influence, so might not come off as indic shifted as more isolated dialect, wanetsi)

[Seya]

It sounds like Indian spoken with a Slavic accent.

[Melonman]

It sounds like Indian spoken with a Slavic accent.

thanks for input

[Applesandoranges]

Interesting language