Is the person or group criticising a country just as revealing as the country being criticised?

[mitalit]

Not necessarily. It is easy to see if a person objectively criticizes something and is open to changing his opinion and when not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Bueno los trolles ticos hablaban como si Costa Rica fuera otra Argentina

Well politically and economically, CR is in many respects much better than Argentina, regardless of how White either of them are.

[Tooting Carmen]

Tooting Carmen reitero Haití incluso con algunos países del África Subsahariana sale mal en comparaciones y el África Subsahariana empezó a progresar porque aplicó el capitalismo al igual que los tigres asiáticos mientras América Latina se decanta por el socialismo del siglo XXI o la socialdemócracia

Te vendría bien leer el siguiente artículo https://www.elquintopoder.cl/politic...cion-haitiana/
Y países del Caribe que su población si es negra en el sentido estricto de la palabra y no con mezcla negra como mi país, RD, Cuba, tu amada Costa Rica tampoco quieren Haitianos

Haiti is a perennial disaster. We can all agree on that. Conversely, it also proves that the notion that Blacks cannot govern themselves properly is actually a lie, because it is such an extreme outlier for the Caribbean.

[axel.aleman]

Haiti is a perennial disaster. We can all agree on that. Conversely, it also proves that the notion that Blacks cannot govern themselves properly is actually a lie, because it is such an extreme outlier for the Caribbean.

Haití es más complejo que su raza y es muy diferente a República Dominicana, Panamá, Cuba, Puerto Rico son comparables directamente con RD

[Tooting Carmen]

Haití es más complejo que su raza y es muy diferente a República Dominicana, Panamá, Cuba, Puerto Rico son comparables directamente con RD

I didn't mean because of its racial make-up. I meant that, politically and economically, it has no real rival elsewhere in the region.

[Cranberryjuice]

Yes, but GDP per capita is not the only measure of the quality of a given society, especially if there is a high level of inequality.

By the way, the following just came out, and I figure you would like it

Muy Alto Desarrollo Humano

42. Chile 0.855

47. Argentina 0.842

58. Costa Rica 0.809

58. Uruguay 0.809

61. Panamá 0.805



Alto Desarrollo Humano


80 República Dominicana 0.767

83 Cuba 0.764

84 Perú 0.762

86 México 0.758

87 Brasil 0.754

88 Colombia 0.752

95 Ecuador 0.740

105 Paraguay 0.717



Desarrollo Humano Medio

118 Bolivia 0.692

120 Venezuela 0.691

125 El Salvador 0.675

126 Nicaragua 0.667

135 Guatemala 0.627

137 Honduras 0.621



Bajo Desarrollo Humano


163 Haití 0.535



https://hdr.undp.org/system/files/do...21-22pdf_1.pdf

[Tooting Carmen]

One sort-of example of the OP phenomenon I was reading about the other day involved none other than Antonio Salazar: in 1937 he wrote a book (rightly) condemning the Nuremberg Laws called Como se Levanta um Estado (How to Raise a State), where he argued that Portuguese nationalism did not glorify a single race because such a notion was pagan and anti-human.

[capocannoniere]

And I partially agree with her. Not all nations are capable of self rule. See Haiti and Somalia, to put just a couple of examples.

I don't know if we get the "talented tenth" of something like that but our experience in Brazil with Haitian migration has been great.
They are working people who managed to have good relations with a knowingly racist society like the immigrant dominated South Brazilian interior.

Also to this day there's no crime involving Haitians in my region, and even if this was the case, the ones who do it the most are our own triracials born in suburban outskirts and slums.
I'd rather deal with Haitians speaking good Portuguese than with some of the Brazilians here.

I just can't think they are 75-100% guilty of being a failed state. The idea that "this colony (applies to most) was a rich productive paradise and everyone was happy, then a native wanted freedom and it became a shithole" seems hard to believe when either crazy reparations were demanded or the metropolitan exploration structure was still up and running.

[Incal]

Alto Desarrollo Humano


80 República Dominicana 0.767

83 Cuba 0.764

84 Perú 0.762

86 México 0.758

87 Brasil 0.754

88 Colombia 0.752

95 Ecuador 0.740

105 Paraguay 0.717

Si la Mula o Brownsien ven esto se ponen a trollear un mes entero

[axel.aleman]

Si la Mula o Brownsien ven esto se ponen a trollear un mes entero

Pero no invoques al Gaysien