What's up with Anthrogenica? (16th of July 2022)

[Creoda]

Don't care for their political correctness and OTT moderation, but there were some informative threads and knowledgeable posters there, so it's a shame if it's gone for good. I was looking forward to the updates and discussion on the Anglo-Saxon paper this month.

Should we expect a refugee wave from Anthrogenica?

Unlikely, but a few old members might return sporadically.

[gixajo]

And I was harassed by pm and threatened with ban for "causing troubles" with "absurd baseless theories" for saying that that the Jews recently expelled from Spain and Portugal in 1492 and 1498 had to have, after being here 1200 years, enough Iberian admixture right at the time of expulsion.

A few days later, and having almost forgotten about all that, I was banned , I think for a week. When that week passed, they extended my punishment for no reason until about a month.

After that I was also banned for naming the nikname of a Spaniard who is unmentionable in that forum (Gaska), who has a different theory from the official and majority one about the expansion of certain paternal lineages in Europe, something that apparently is taboo to mention.. Just to say his name joking and I was banned.

Here I have also been banned twice absurdly both times, but at least Loki is sincere and acts like what he is. If something bothers him, he bans you, and he doesn't usually camouflage the ban with supposed logical pretexts, it's enough that he doesn't like what you say, and once the indignation passes, he talks to you.

[JamesBond007]

I hope it come back, one of the few serious places to learn and talk about genetics

What ? Most science outside of physics is politically motivated statistical manipulation. For instance, if genetics shows that blacks are the least intelligence race it will be surpressed but if it is somehow linked to IQ tests the methodology would be shoddy, anyway. Even though, the DSM has been shown to be unscientific you will have scientists, funded by rich people, who do not like to pay for 'unproductive people' looking for genetic causes of 'mental disorders' :

"Psychiatric insiders have openly admitted the lack of science to their area of operations. Allen Frances (cited in Whitaker and Cosgrove 2015: 61), for example, has recently stated that the mental disorders given in the DSM are “better understood as no more than currently convenient constructs or heuristics that allow [psychiatrists] to communicate with one another.” This has included the classic constructs of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder (formerly manic-depression), of which the mental health researcher Joel Paris at the Department of Psychiatry, McGill University, has admitted “[i]n reality, we do not know whether [such] conditions … are true diseases” (cited in Whitaker and Cosgrove 2015: 61). Even National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) director and strong advocate of biomedical psychiatry, Thomas Insel (cited in Masson 2015: xii), announced on the release of the DSM-5 in 2013 that the categories of mental disorder lacked validity and NIMH would no longer be using such diagnoses for research purposes.Despite the claims to “progress” made by official historians of psychiatry such as Lieberman and Shorter, there is no evidence for the supposed “science” of psychiatry. There is no test for any mental illness, no proof of causation, no evidence of successful “treatment” that relates specifically to an individual disorder, and no accurate prediction of future cases. Thus, the claim that psychiatric constructs are real disease has not been proven. .." --Bruce, C. Psychiatric Hegemony : A Marxist Theory of Mental Illness

^ I only quote one book here because I don't want to flood the thread

[gixajo]

I hope it come back, one of the few serious places to learn and talk about genetics

It´s a place where we can learn a lot about many things from many people, but some of their moderators are more intransgent and intolerant in his "scientific" positions than Loki in his religious positions.

They do not tolerate the slightest deviation from what they consider to be true, in comparison TA is an oasis of freedom.

When some take science as a religion, they are much worse than very believing people.

It's a compliment to you Loki, don't ban me, please.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

The best stuff is always the first to go away.

[vader]

I like anthrogenica for the seriousness like Ard said. And I'm really only into science approach when it comes to these types of forums, especially now. When I first joined this site I got weaved in to learn more ab my genetics but got pushed into phenotype discussion. It's a fun thing to play with but it's not a serious topic compared to scientific genetic topics. On anthrogenica I'd never participate in any threads unrelated to Iberian genetics because I know I'd get completely roasted for either not knowing enough, or saying something a user may disagree with. I've never been banned from anthrogenica... But at the same time I know not to get too deep, or too controversial or I could risk a ban. On here I know what I did to get a ban and I respect that. I can't speak to anthrogenica... Bc again I've never been banned. There are bans that make a lot of sense, where people get way off topic, or become too immature with racial undertones. But probably not something to warrant a perma ban with no possibilities for a second chance.

I'm simply facinated by human genetics and how we became the way we are. But these forums always become way too politically driven. The agendas can make a civilized scientific discussion into a circle jerk wild fire with unkempt nationalism. It's not necessary for a place like anthrogenica.

[mitalit]

It´s a place where we can learn a lot about many things from many people, but some of their moderators are more intransgent and intolerant in his "scientific" positions than Loki in his religious positions.

They do not tolerate the slightest deviation from what they consider to be true, in comparison TA is an oasis of freedom.

When some take science as a religion, they are much worse than very believing people.

It's a compliment to you Loki, don't ban me, please.

Both forums are fine in their style. But it's nice to read from time to time things where 90% aren't manipulation attempts full of lies.

[gixajo]

Both forums are fine in their style. But it's nice to read from time to time things where 90% aren't manipulation attempts full of lies.

Of course, I want AG back.

They are two forums from which to spread agendas, they only differ in the ways of doing it.

[Halgurd]

Just bad losers. They were wrong about everything and were spreading their stupid retard propaganda for years. And when they found out that 1st stage PIEan homeland is located in Northwestern Iran they pulled out the plug.

I heard they found some native Northwestern Iranic Y-DNA lineages that were also found in Steppe Maykop. And those lineages were older than those in Yamnaya.


checkmate for them

Yes, Kurdistan is the home of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. David Reich's team came to this conclusion. Just waiting for the paper to be published now.

[Guti]

Yes, Kurdistan is the home of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. David Reich's team came to this conclusion. Just waiting for the paper to be published now.

I have been telling & yelling this for the last 20 YEARS! Everybody ridiculed me including other 'Kurds'.

I want to know if that ancient 6000 years old Yezidi temple in Lalish belonged to the ancient proto-Indo-European people or proto-Western Iranic people.



Btw, I thin AG is down to stop the leaks. Everyday more and more leaks came in and were reported on that site and the only solution was to shut it down before those articles are published.