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    Quote Originally Posted by Nglund View Post
    Such a base isn't necessarily needed right now, the Chinese don't even have the naval power to force its navy across the Taiwan Strait: they have a weak navy that could not survive confrontation with the US Navy.
    They may well claim sovereignty over the South China Sea, but it does not mean that they have the ability to protect convoys shipped to distant battlefields.
    Prior preparation prevents piss poor performance.

    China's influence via blue water fleet may come into realisation by 2020.

    China's influence by backing militia's, regimes, political parties, pressure groups is already world wide. They are now known as the bully of the South Pacific by smaller Asian Pacific countries.

    India, just check out there military and social forums to read what they think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieScott View Post
    Prior preparation prevents piss poor performance.

    China's influence via blue water fleet may come into realisation by 2020.

    China's influence by backing militia's, regimes, political parties, pressure groups is already world wide. They are now known as the bully of the South Pacific by smaller Asian Pacific countries.

    India, just check out there military and social forums to read what they think...
    I guess you're right, but still, it takes more than two decades to build a good fleet with very experienced sailors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piparskeggr View Post
    As US veteran, I have not noticed a preponderance of Negroes in the Marines versus society as a whole, likely less so.

    And I'll further note, the "dark folk" of Australia know as the Aborigines..."blackness" has already been there for quite some time.
    The abo's are 1% of our population. Our women don't like them and our men don't either. But women like American military men. And your 10% (in your normal population) is not a horror we need. Our two governments play tag with Asians and Indians from immigration. We've let in negro asylum seekers but both governments seem to be unfavorable to negro introduction, from what I can tell.

    What do you think the euro percentage is in the US military?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nglund View Post
    I guess you're right, but still, it takes more than two decades to build a good fleet with very experienced sailors.
    What the Chinese lack in ingenuity, they make up for with discipline, efficiency and long term planning. They literally scrounge the bowls of the Earth to make up for there lack of technological inefficiencies.

    I think it highly possible if say a GFC 2 occurs and another round of Chinese stimulus packages aimed at rapidly expanding there Naval capacity, could see there blue water fleet before 2020.

    That is just a theory of mine.

    Plus the fact China's business elite are pushing to take over Japan's role of manufacturing high end Tech goods, is another aim at military acquisition under the guise of commerce.

    China using Rare Earth minerals to manipulate this into reality, says to me they are pinning to become the 1st global power sooner then we think.

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    So, to clarify- you as an Aussie feel positive, negative, or indifferent towards a US base in Australia?

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieScott View Post
    Prior preparation prevents piss poor performance.

    China's influence via blue water fleet may come into realisation by 2020.

    China's influence by backing militia's, regimes, political parties, pressure groups is already world wide. They are now known as the bully of the South Pacific by smaller Asian Pacific countries.

    India, just check out there military and social forums to read what they think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkey View Post
    The abo's are 1% of our population. Our women don't like them and our men don't either. But women like American military men. And your 10% (in your normal population) is not a horror we need. Our two governments play tag with Asians and Indians from immigration. We've let in negro asylum seekers but both governments seem to be unfavorable to negro introduction, from what I can tell.

    What do you think the euro percentage is in the US military?
    We're probably talking about a few dozen niggers, at most. It's an issue, certainly, but considering the bigger picture...

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    I'm not an economist, but if more significant collapses occur(which they will, whether its tomorrow or fifty years time) then it might become financially nonviable for freight ships to deliver. If the ships stop moving, china may be forced into war.

    I'm not sure if that would be the motivation for war or something else, but it's probably going to be trade related.
    My guess is from seeing nations at war in the past that they'll build a navy quicker than you can say jack frost and they'll get good at running it real quick.

    Is it better to be ruled as we currently are or by china?

    Personally(unless one is an old skinhead, sitting in jail getting angrier and angrier about it), at the moment we'd all be better off as things are, because we can just sit here in air conditioned comfort sipping our rum and coke and donating to the environment and starving kids in Africa and banging Asian and/or transsexual prostitutes every second night.

    In terms of racial preservation, we'd probably be better off as a subjugated underclass of the Chinese. It would give us the friction we need to preserve ourselves. It would back us into the corner which we need to quicken our fire.

    In a real war against the Chinese, our governments will be pouring workers from anywhere and defectors from china into our country, to boost the war effort. This will be catastrophic for preservation of course.

    We've seen from the last to world wars that our mad leaders are quite happy to cripple our races and our economies in a wild chance to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkey View Post
    And the negrofication of Australia begins
    Yeah, 'cause U.S. military personnel were formerly strangers to Australia.

    The ANZACs fought hard & bravely, but with all due respect, if it weren't for the USA, Australia might well have wound up a dominion of the Japanese Empire. The Australians thus understand we are their natural allies, and they are ours. And U.S. combat soldiers (the sort these are presumably intended to be) are overwhelmingly White. Blacks are mainly found in rear echelon support units.

    There probably will be some Mexicans & Puerto Ricans, because they have a martial spirit of their own (unlike Blacks, who make lousy frontline combat troops).

    I'm generally more supportive of the European position than the American one, when the two are contrasted, but the Euros aren't going to do much to defend Australia from the Asiatic hordes, I suspect, whereas we very well might. The Brits had their chance 60 years ago, and the Australians were forced to come to us for aid, after the fall of Singapore (and the sinking of the Prince of Wales & the Repulse).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savant View Post
    So, to clarify- you as an Aussie feel positive, negative, or indifferent towards a US base in Australia?
    Generally positive, as it helps dampen China and India pushing there agenda's on us as fast as possible.

    In the end the multicultural Asian Pacific Union claptrap is still the political elites aim, there aim becomes our militarises aim. So our adversaries have the advantage of making long term plans.

    Militarily Communism and Capitalism has never mixed well, I see them as opposing magnets to.

    This gives me hope as it can end in a bitter stale mate, rather than having the Eurasian future come full circle. We will continue with our birds of a feather, self selecting apartheid ways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nglund View Post
    Such a base isn't necessarily needed right now, the Chinese don't even have the naval power to force its navy across the Taiwan Strait: they have a weak navy that could not survive confrontation with the US Navy.
    Its preparatory. I don't think the USA plans to defend Australia with "500-1,000" Marines. But by sending them now, we signal our willingness to continue with our longstanding national policy of prioritizing continued Australian national independence.
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