I don't understand how Spaniards are classified in the USA.

[SilverKnight]

We must "thank" this to Mexicans and rest of our brown bastards. By its fault we are related with them since they call Spanish themselves, or Hispanic (when the real Hispanics are the people from Hispania ie Spain and Portugal).

Ignorance of Americans does not help neither.

Bro that's thanks to Spain, in other words, it's the other way around

But hey we are all 1 group

[gixajo]

Actually its thanks to spain. This is a thing because of the spanish American war most likely.
Hispanic refers to if you are of spanish heritage. Not if you are brown. Thats why they if you are white non hispanic , then ask if you are hispanic or black or asian ect.
You are the bastard remember. Just a white spanish bastard with no papers.

Actually Spaniards and Portuguese are much less bastard than the average "white American".

[Cristiano viejo]

Actually its thanks to spain. This is a thing because of the spanish American war most likely.
Hispanic refers to if you are of spanish heritage. Not if you are brown. Thats why they if you are white non hispanic , then ask if you are hispanic or black or asian ect.
You are the bastard remember. Just a white spanish bastard with no papers.

Dont be so sensitive. You should be proud of being our bastard.

[Damião de Góis]

The US is the most racist country. Everything is about race and it's always mentioned in movies and tv shows. I think they might be the only country where they racially profile their citizens.

I have never visited the US. Would i need to fiil out a race form to visit the country?

[Zlatan]

Actually Spaniards and Portuguese are much less bastard than the average "white American".

Maybe the average white American has more mixed European ancestry but Spanish and Portuguese are more likely to have some non-European admixture, like North African.

[gixajo]

Maybe the average white American has more mixed European ancestry but Spanish and Portuguese are more likely to have some non-European admixture, like North African.

Yeah, North Africa is not Europe, but Berbers are considered a caucasoid people, they are 14 km away from Europe, they are considered white in USA in opposite of how "Hispanics" are considered, and most of them were christians till 700 CE and owned to the civilizated world under the Roman rule till the fall of Rome , in opposite of for example Scandinavians.

So if Iberians are European and his "outside non-european" admixture is considered white in USA, even coming from Africa, Iberians should be considered white.

From my point of view,if white Americans have a mixture of many more different places than the average Spanish or Portuguese, you are clearly more bastards than any Spanish and any European, wherever they are from (and that considering that many of you also have African, Amerindian or Jewish contributions).

And I don't care if they are contributions from different parts of Europe, if you want I'll call you Euro-bastard or Euro-mutt, but you are more bastard than me or any of my compatriots, including those from Canary islands.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Hispanic just means you come from a spanish speaking country in census and forms.
They ask for race which is why they ask if you are non white hispanic.

This probably stems from the spanish american war.

It has nothing to do with the Spanish-Anerican War (lolz) and everything to do with a large Spanish speaking population that comes in many different racial varieties and so a cultural term (Hispanic) is used to describe them.

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe the average white American has more mixed European ancestry but Spanish and Portuguese are more likely to have some non-European admixture, like North African.

White Americans have negro and Amerindian.
Afrikaaners have negro and Asian.

Why are they white, tell me.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Yeah, North Africa is not Europe, but Berbers are considered a caucasoid people, they are 14 km away from Europe, they are considered white in USA in opposite of how "Hispanics" are considered, and most of them were christians till 700 CE and owned to the civilizated world under the Roman rule till the fall of Rome , in opposite of for example Scandinavians.

So if Iberians are European and his "outside non-european" admixture is considered white in USA, even coming from Africa, Iberians should be considered white.

From my point of view,if white Americans have a mixture of many more different places than the average Spanish or Portuguese, you are clearly more bastards than any Spanish and any European, wherever they are from (and that considering that many of you also have African, Amerindian or Jewish contributions).

And I don't care if they are contributions from different parts of Europe, if you want I'll call you Euro-bastard or Euro-mutt, but you are more bastard than me or any of my compatriots, including those from Canary islands.

I'm always amused by people. Spaniards are considered White in the US. A cultural term is not a racial term. On the US census you're asked your ethnicity (whether you're Hispanic or Non-Hispanic) and then on a separate question you're asked your race.

Amusingly obvious Mestizos and Ameriduans are considered as White by default (FBI statistics).

I must have explained this a dozen times on this forum. It's not complicated. You can just look up how Hispanic is defined on the US census.

[Zlatan]

White Americans have negro and Amerindian.

This is not typical. SSA mixed whites are only in the south. Amerindian mix is uncommon too or very overrated.