Bundestag comes out

[Teutone]

That's the point though: Communism (or rather its leaders) claimed to be leading a society into new ways of doing things and making people more altruistic and communitarian, but in practice the corruption, over-centralisation and economic distorsions prevalent in Communist states led people to often snitch on each other and fight and be suspicious of each other at least as much if not rather more than in the 'decadent' and 'atomised' capitalist states.

I am not a communist, I think western-liberalism is way worse. Me and alot of east Germans are essentially wanting a 3rd way. Factually the socialisation under communism compared to west Germany, has shown to be better, you can talk as much as you want about the pros and cons. Not being ethnically replaced, not being guilt ridden, not being ashamed of their history and having a collectivist mindset are pros that overshadow EVERYTHING.

Times will get rougher, acceleration is coming like during the weimar years, and MAYBE MAYBE we can show the reality of toxic masculinity and knock the front teeths out of the bisexual cosmopolitan soy latte drinking, skinny jeans wearing neoliberal low testosterone hypercultural scum that pollute our population.

[Tooting Carmen]

I am not a communist, I think western-liberalism is way worse. Me and alot of east Germans are essentially wanting a 3rd way. Factually the socialisation under communism compared to west Germany, has shown to be better, you can talk as much as you want about the pros and cons. Not being ethnically replaced, not being guilt ridden, not being ashamed of their history and having a collectivist mindset are pros that overshadow EVERYTHING.

Times will get rougher, acceleration is coming like during the weimar years, and MAYBE MAYBE we can show the reality of toxic masculinity and knock the front teeths out of the bisexual cosmopolitan soy latte drinking, skinny jeans wearing neoliberal low testosterone hypercultural scum that pollute our population.

Actually, weren't (real or putative) ex-Nazis treated even more harshly in East than West Germany? And the former actually legalised homosexuality slightly earlier than the latter.

But leaving those caveats aside, yes I believe in a third way between Communism and the (mislabelled) free-market system too. It is called social democracy, and it generally worked pretty well until the unofficial alliance of Thatcher-Reagan-Pinochet-Suharto broke it up firstly in their own countries and then more indirectly elsewhere. As a matter of fact, I would like something akin to Singapore, which combines low tax and regulation with widespread State ownership of various industries and services. Furthermore, like I discuss in this thread, many so-called 'far right' regimes were actually considerably to the Left of today's Labour Party and Democrats on key economic issues: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-quot-Discuss

[Teutone]

Actually, weren't (real or putative) ex-Nazis treated even more harshly in East than West Germany? And the former actually legalised homosexuality slightly earlier than the latter.

But leaving those caveats aside, yes I believe in a third way between Communism and the (mislabelled) free-market system too. It is called social democracy, and it generally worked pretty well until the unofficial alliance of Thatcher-Reagan-Pinochet-Suharto broke it up firstly in their own countries and then more indirectly elsewhere. As a matter of fact, I would like something akin to Singapore, which combines low tax and regulation with widespread State ownership of various industries and services. Furthermore, like I discuss in this thread, many so-called 'far right' regimes were actually considerably to the Left of today's Labour Party and Democrats on key economic issues: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-quot-Discuss

Anything in regards to the laws and society in the early stages of the federal republic of Germany, was a reality of the fact that the majority of the people living in Germany at this stage were socialized in the 3rd Reich and would never ever accept the hedonistic virtues of the west, it took the indoctrination of the boomer babies to establish the neoliberal social order. At the end in the GDR you could not be a respectable member of society if you were an outcast in any way, these are extreme forms of conformity that I do not necessarily approve, I approve it to some extend, but not to that extend, but at the end we can always compare this and that, what we CAN FACTUALLY see is how different east and west Germans are by now and how the systems formed them, and East Germans are certainly way better off than their western counterparts.

Same goes for most of East Europe on things that are priority to me and are not a priority to someone that only seeks salvation in economic development and wealth.

I am a conservative revolutionary, this is a third position ideology with a philosophical foundation and political theory.

[Mejgusu]

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Are you familiar with political parties in Germany? Which one do you think is very close to your own views?

[B01AB20]

More and more people, are beginning to see that LGTBI, feminism and inmigration issues waved like flags of the "new progressivism" have gone too far, and that it is reaching totally ridiculous extremes.

The rules of the game have become unfair against the vast majority, and privileges for minorities supposedly in inferior conditions. Normalization was undoubtedly necessary, but ridiculous extremes have been reached.

It's just a personal perception, but I think the wind is starting to blow from another side.

Yeah, I agree.
But only massive immigration is really damaging our societies. The constant propaganda of LGTBI agenda into our brains and throats by massmedia and progressive forces and goverments can be annoying, but a few gays and lesbians marrying or adopting children, or transgerder men beating femenine records in sports is not the end of civilization as we know it.
Most people is simply bored and ignore this constant propaganda LGTBI, or some are outraged and furious and waht they do?, voting ultra-right wing parties, which, as long as they don't win, is not bad because it's a big warning to the progressives and their agenda.

But what if they win?.
We could see the change of constant LGTBI propaganda to another constant propaganda like 'Dios, patria, familia...Franco Franco Franco' or a 'democracy a la Putin' which is simply a vile and criminal authoritarism.

[Tooting Carmen]

Are you familiar with political parties in Germany? Which one do you think is very close to your own views?

Vaguely. Maybe the Green Party or Die Linke, but both have batshit crazy foreign policies, so I am unsure.

[Mejgusu]

Vaguely. Maybe the Green Party or Die Linke, but both have batshit crazy foreign policies, so I am unsure.

The Green party is most despicable party nor I can respect their voters, unlike Linke they are very pro USA/Nato. Personally I don’t like their ignorance. I respected Linke for being the only party who was opposing all the others, now adopted a lot of nonsense from Green party, and you are right their foreign policy is crazy, especially some legitimate Chinese behavior towards Uyghurs. But I have to say there are some which I like.

[Mejgusu]

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[Rumata]

That's the point though: Communism (or rather its leaders) claimed to be leading a society into new ways of doing things and making people more altruistic and communitarian, but in practice the corruption, over-centralisation and economic distorsions prevalent in Communist states led people to often snitch on each other and fight and be suspicious of each other at least as much if not rather more than in the 'decadent' and 'atomised' capitalist states.

Remember how a western resident would report his neighbour to the police in case the neighbour doesn't follow "the rules of the lockdown"? Here such residents are called "rats" and aren't respected but greatly despised.