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Thread: Pristina’s goal is exile of Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija – Serbian official

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Kosovo is clearly Serbia under international law and has always been Serbia, it was conquered and taken away by military force in violation of international law. Sure, most of them are Albanians, but there are also parts of the USA where most Mexicans are, such as California or parts of Texas, should they now become independent or part of Mexico? To be honest, I think that Serbia should be on good terms with Kosovo, as far as possible trade, open borders, etc. no dispute and also the Albanians accept that they live there, but I'm not sure if one should officially recognize Kosovo, there must be a clause that violates international law, otherwise you are endorsing arbitrary military violence against your own people. That's why I'm not sure if you should recognize Kosovo under international law, because then the breaking of the law and the violence against Serbia is justified, but you should de facto recognize Kosovo and the reality that most of them are Albanians and want to be independent.

    Western Kosovo has been inhabited by Albanians for longer than it has ever been inhabited by Serbs.

    Prizren and Opoja were Albanian towns in the late 1500's. Gjakova , Peja , were Albanian also before Austrian-Ottoman Wars etc . It remained that way until mid 19th century when they expelled Albanians from other areas north of Kosovo. Those people then settled Kosovo. And some Serbs were expelled that's how it turned entirely into an Albanian enclave. It was the birthplace and center of the Albanian national movement. Serbia only occupied it after an Albanian revolt against the Ottoman Empire. They never legally annexed it.
    So it was never legally part of Serbia.

    A people who claim Albanians came after 1690 want to teach us about history. Bunch of Serbs that settled there in the 1700's and 1800's and even Vlachs, Circassians etc. But of course they only tell you about ''Albanian migrations'' .

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    ROFL, Greece is the absolute stooge of NATO/US foreign policy in the region with its past, present, and probably future government. It won't do shit to block any EU initiative, or rather it will strive to enable ascension of Kosovo just like it enabled North Macedonia and its ascension into NATO membership and now into its incoming EU candidacy membership.

    You are very out of touch of what transpires in the Balkan neighborhood.
    This is true. Spain is probably the biggest stumbling block for the Kosovars, purely for it's own selfish reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizz View Post
    Albanian rapper Stresi from Northern Albania writes he is ready to bring 20,000 men in case of a war

    https://www.instagram.com/stories/st...7444817481236/


    I am also 100% ready to fight. I am sick and tired of these Serbo-Chetniks.
    Do you even have any military experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post
    That's why I don't really get what Serbs want to achieve in practice : let's say, even in a scenario of "reconquista", how would you manage 2 million people hostile to you + economically behind the rest of Serbia ? It has no practical basis. I don't see how in practice we can move back from an independant Kosovo to again a Serbian autonomous region

    Only reasonable proposition would be an exchange of Mitrovica with Presevo-Bujanovac + for the remaining areas, full equal rights ofc. + Free visa travelling zone and free trade for business for both Serbians and Kosovans to both countries
    RogueState is 100% correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    0 IQ analogy.
    Actually it's a valid analogy.
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    We are never going to give up Kosovo. They can have the north where they make up the majority. It would be actually a good riddance, as what's the point of trying to integrate these people into our country. Then we build a wall that blocks us from them as I personally want nothing to do with these people. (Nor do I want anything to do with these disgusting Croats)

    Then we unite with Albania and build our country. We just wanna be left alone. We are sick and tired of these stupid Slavs. Illyrians should of had better border controls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Actually it's a valid analogy.
    Yes, this is also list of people of your kind from UK - Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, Will Smith, Martin Luther etc, all English lads.

    Istanbul is also Turkish by your analogy, because now it's called Istanbul not Constantinople.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogueState View Post

    That's why I don't really get what Serbs want to achieve in practice : let's say, even in a scenario of "reconquista", how would you manage 2 million people hostile to you + economically behind the rest of Serbia ? It has no practical basis.
    Due to constant emigration toward West, their real number in Kosovo is closer to 1 million than to 2 millions.

    And in case of Reconquista, why do you think all of them will remain in Kosovo?
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    And the evidence also suggests that, while there was a steady flow of Albanians from Northern Albania into Kosovo, a major component of the Albanians demographic growth there was the expansion of an indigenous Albanian population within Kosovo itself.
    Serbian historians explain the growth of an Albanian population in Kosovo during the early Ottoman period in terms of physical immigration: it is suggested that Albanians from the Malesi were encouraged by the Ottomans to settle in Kosovo, that many of these turned to Islam to gain the advantages of superior status, and that those Slavs who became Muslims were not merely Islamicized but, sooner or later, Albanianized as well.

    The Ottoman officials usually noted which heads of family were new arrivals in their places of residence; out of 121 new arrivals in the nahiye of Pec in 1485, the majority had Slav names. In the sancak of Prizren in 1591, only five new arrivals out of forty-one bore Albanian names; and in a group of Kosovo towns in the 1580's and 1590's there were twenty five new Albanian immigrants and 133 with Slav names - several of them described as coming from Bosnia. This evidence counts strongly against the idea of mass immigration from northern Albania. Other more general arguments against that idea are based on relative population sizes and rates of growth. The population of Kosovo during this period was much bigger than that of northern and central Albania, and its rate of growth was actually lower. This is not what one would expect if a large overflow from the Albanian Malesi were flooding into Kosovo.
    By the time the Patriarchate was re-established at Pec, the town of Pec itself may already have gained an absolute majority of Muslims. At the same time, there is an increasing evidence that parts of Western Kosovo had a significant ethnic Albanian population, evidence which goes beyond anything that can be demonstrated for the medieval period.
    Lazaro Soranzo, in the late sixteenth century, writing of 'Albanians, who live as Catholics, and observing that Prizren was inhabited ' more by Albanians than by Serbs')
    - Kosovo: A Short History
    - Rebels, Believers, Suvivors


    Western Kosovo (Rrafshi i Dukagjinit) has been Albanian for far longer than Serb. Gained an Albanian majority before Austrian-Ottoman wars in 1690.

    Defter of Brankovic has been criticized by many to not be reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Do you even have any military experience?
    Does he even live in Kosovo?

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