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    Russian President Vladimir Putin met with his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Sochi on August 5, where the two leaders agreed to boost bilateral trade. Erdogan declared that Russian-Turkish relations had reached a new level. According to a joint statement issued following the meeting, the presidents underlined their shared desire to further expand relations. The deepening of economic ties between the two countries is raising alarm bells in the West and may result in sanctions against Turkey, Vedomosti writes.

    According to the Financial Times, Western leaders have threatened Ankara with sanctions if it helps Russia to evade restrictions. A source in Western governments told the newspaper that the measures could begin with informal directives to Western banks and financial institutions to reduce financial dealings with Turkish counterparts.

    It will be "extremely stupid" if the United States and its allies decide to impose sanctions on Ankara, editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs magazine Fyodor Lukyanov told Vedomosti. Turkey pursues an independent policy and prioritizes its interests, which include maintaining constructive relations with everyone: Russia, Ukraine, and the West. This position enables Ankara to do things that no other country can, such as act as an intermediary in settling the issue of Ukrainian grain exports, according to the expert.

    Turkey serves as an important logistics hub for Russia, which is one of the reasons for the nations' increased turnover, Director of Programs at the Russian International Affairs Council Ivan Timofeev said. Turkish companies are actively exploring the space left by Western businesses who have exited the Russian market. Secondary sanctions on Turkey, according to Timofeev, will not have any substantial impact - Ankara may just create special enterprises and legal entities to do business with Russia, thus the US banning them would have little effect, the expert noted.

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    Turkey is looking out for its own interests. If Euro nations like Germany did the same they wouldn't be worried about freezing this winter.

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    I would not trust Erdogan. The turkish politicians are not trustworthy, they sold tons of weapon to Ukraine to killing russians and now this business.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Turkey is looking out for its own interests. If Euro nations like Germany did the same they wouldn't be worried about freezing this winter.
    The problems is that we have a powerful organisation that has members in all major parties, media and industry and its called the Atlantikbrücke, which sole purpose is to orientate Germany towards Nato.

    What is also not helping and makes Germany generally a none reliable partner is the fact we got US Bases and US nuclear missiles on our soil.

    I genuinely think given the mindset of our population and the power of the Atlantikbrücke, we need to experience blackouts and freezing to finally make the population wake up, nothing else achieved a awakening so far.

    This will be the chance for the AfD to point out they always were against:

    Russian Sanctions

    Relying on "Green" energy

    Co2 taxes

    Expansion of the EU

    Against the media

    Against abolishing nuclear energy

    Against all the woke lunacy


    If all the positions the AfD stands for would be established the past 8 years, we would be waaaaaay better off.


    Erdogan is a smart leader, people need to look past the outdated edgy "hes a fucking turk, therefore an enemy" narrative. People that have not evolved from those cringy Geert Wilders bullshit, are retarded anyway.

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    Erdogan needs achievements since he isn’t successful domestically, in not even 1 year there will be elections and it isn’t still clear who will win. And Putin needs a powerful ally who isn’t far away from Europe like African or Asian countries(for example India). Both need each other to keep their powe alive, both dislike the West. In Balkan, Near/Middle East and Central Asia both are opponents. But I doubt Putin wants a failure of Erdogan, although he is troublesome for him like in Syria, Ukraine or Karabagh, but still too useful than a pro Western Turkish government. It is just a weird relationship, best enemies/friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I would not trust Erdogan. The turkish politicians are not trustworthy, they sold tons of weapon to Ukraine to killing russians and now this business.....
    Some tend to think world is black & white, you are one of them.
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