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Thread: Known Ancestry vs Midpoint Plotting: Should one identify with a genetic midpoint?

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    Default Known Ancestry vs Midpoint Plotting: Should one identify with a genetic midpoint?

    If a person of mixed European ancestry plots with a population other than the ones that make up his or her ancestry, would it be appropriate under any condition for that person to identify with that midpoint population on calculators? For example, a southern Italian and Swede mix that plots with northern Italians.

    It seems a bit strange to me but I suppose the argument can be made they are genetically similar to their midpoint. What do you think?

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    Known ancestry, of course. If you’re 1/2 Hungarian/Greek, and you come out ...I don’t know, as a Croat or somewhere around there, it would seem super silly to identify as a Croat just based off the interpretations and algorithms.
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    No, this is stupid as it has nothing to do with your genuine descent.

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    Yes, they should also learn the language of the midpoint and move to said country for life. And shut the door behind, throw the key in the sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    No, this is stupid as it has nothing to do with your genuine descent.
    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Known ancestry, of course. If you’re 1/2 Hungarian/Greek, and you come out ...I don’t know, as a Croat or somewhere around there, it would seem super silly to identify as a Croat just based off the interpretations and algorithms.
    I tend to agree but have seem some people on this forum and other forums claiming their midpoint is meaningful. One guy even posts videos and pictures to celebrate his plotting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Known ancestry, of course. If you’re 1/2 Hungarian/Greek, and you come out ...I don’t know, as a Croat or somewhere around there, it would seem super silly to identify as a Croat just based off the interpretations and algorithms.
    Are you for real?? Hungarians literally plot with Croats, for God's sake.
    Lmao.

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    It seems to me something quite absurd

    But in the case of Swedish+South Italian=North Italian, considering how reviled the Southern Italians are by some retarded people , it would be a way of masking their relationship with a group that is usually despised by some assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Are you for real?? Hungarians literally plot with Croats, for God's sake.
    Lmao.
    Depending with which Greek you mix the Hungarian, for example with Greek_Laconia reference+Hungarian=

    Distance to: Greek_Laconia/Hungarian
    0.01305663 Bulgarian
    0.01310529 Romanian
    0.01457836 Macedonian
    0.01832180 Gagauz
    0.02103781 Montenegrin
    0.02105777 Serbian
    0.02430866 Italian_Northeast
    0.02709823 Moldovan
    0.02950373 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.03073909 Greek_Macedonia
    0.03151645 Rumelia_East
    0.03223676 Albanian
    0.03297955 Italian_Veneto
    0.03399729 Bosnian
    0.03425984 Swiss_Italian
    0.03504824 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03591175 Greek_Thessaly
    0.03633101 Greek_West_Taygetos
    0.03729900 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03823854 French_Provence
    0.03915947 Italian_Liguria
    0.04042880 Greek_Messenia
    0.04092233 Greek_Achaea
    0.04130347 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04157585 Greek_Arcadia

    Code:
    Greek_Laconia/Hungarian,0.1206878,0.1385532,0.0298251,0.0033726,0.0267624,0.0009058,0.0044099,0.0034908,0.0016071,0.0050764,0.0008088,-0.0008761,0.0010448,0.0079836,-0.0092589,-0.0016985,0.0024038,0.0002509,0.0035848,-0.0038642,-0.0049494,0.0016207,0.0043406,0.0022507,-0.0007707


    Hungarians can be quite diverse, and Greeks too.

    And G25 is not the Bible, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzi View Post
    If a person of mixed European ancestry plots with a population other than the ones that make up his or her ancestry, would it be appropriate under any condition for that person to identify with that midpoint population on calculators? For example, a southern Italian and Swede mix that plots with northern Italians.

    It seems a bit strange to me but I suppose the argument can be made they are genetically similar to their midpoint. What do you think?
    The actual ancestry is what you are really connected to, but the genetic midpoint would to me have an importance. Particularly if the genetic distance to there is low like for an indigenous to that area individual. Then this is what you end up alike - admittedly just genetically, but nevertheless.

    If we refer to the LM Genetics correlation map, then indigenous-like would be from abt. 0.97 and upwards.
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
    39.0 Germanic
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Depending with which Greek you mix the Hungarian, for example with Greek_Laconia reference+Hungarian=

    Distance to: Greek_Laconia/Hungarian
    0.01305663 Bulgarian
    0.01310529 Romanian
    0.01457836 Macedonian
    0.01832180 Gagauz
    0.02103781 Montenegrin
    0.02105777 Serbian
    0.02430866 Italian_Northeast
    0.02709823 Moldovan
    0.02950373 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.03073909 Greek_Macedonia
    0.03151645 Rumelia_East
    0.03223676 Albanian
    0.03297955 Italian_Veneto
    0.03399729 Bosnian
    0.03425984 Swiss_Italian
    0.03504824 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03591175 Greek_Thessaly
    0.03633101 Greek_West_Taygetos
    0.03729900 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03823854 French_Provence
    0.03915947 Italian_Liguria
    0.04042880 Greek_Messenia
    0.04092233 Greek_Achaea
    0.04130347 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04157585 Greek_Arcadia

    Code:
    Greek_Laconia/Hungarian,0.1206878,0.1385532,0.0298251,0.0033726,0.0267624,0.0009058,0.0044099,0.0034908,0.0016071,0.0050764,0.0008088,-0.0008761,0.0010448,0.0079836,-0.0092589,-0.0016985,0.0024038,0.0002509,0.0035848,-0.0038642,-0.0049494,0.0016207,0.0043406,0.0022507,-0.0007707


    Hungarians can be quite diverse, and Greeks too.

    And G25 is not the Bible, of course.
    Your point being?

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