Known Ancestry vs Midpoint Plotting: Should one identify with a genetic midpoint?

[JamesBond007]

Only a deracinated Yankee fantasist could unironically think that you can make 'Anglo-Saxons' out of Irish-German Americans, akin to Englishmen. It's been proven false by history, Germans and Irish have decisively helped move America away from its old character, and you as an Irish + German New Yorker could hardly be less British in your demeanour/language, which makes the larping all the more strange. Your modus operandi is to deny that the English are a distinct ethnicity, just because you aren't.

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How is this for language mate ? :

At the end of the day you're absolutely bonkers and utterly incorrect :


Prince Charles has German ancestry through both his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, and his father, Prince Philip. Both parents share Queen Victoria as a great-great-grandmother (which means they are distant cousins).

Queen Victoria's mother, the duchess of Kent, was born in Germany; Queen Victoria's husband was German-born Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Hence the German ancestral connection.

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Anne of Cleves (German: Anna von Kleve; 1515 – 16 July 1557)[2] was Queen of England from 6 January to 12 July 1540 as the fourth wife of King Henry VIII.[2] Not much is known about Anne before 1527, when she became betrothed to Francis, Duke of Bar, son and heir of Antoine, Duke of Lorraine, although their marriage did not proceed. In March 1539, negotiations for Anne's marriage to Henry began, as Henry believed that he needed to form a political alliance with her brother, William, who was a leader of the Protestants of western Germany, to strengthen his position against potential attacks from Catholic France and the Holy Roman Empire Anne was born in 1515, on either 22 September,[2][7] or more probably 28 June.[8] She was born in Düsseldorf,[9] the second daughter of John III of the House of La Marck, Duke of Jülich jure uxoris, Cleves, Berg jure uxoris, Count of Mark, also known as de la Marck and Ravensberg jure uxoris (often referred to as Duke of Cleves) who died in 1538, and his wife Maria, Duchess of Jülich-Berg (1491–1543). She grew up in Schloss Burg on the edge of Solingen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_of_Cleves

[JamesBond007]

Only a deracinated Yankee fantasist could unironically think that you can make 'Anglo-Saxons' out of Irish-German Americans, akin to Englishmen. It's been proven false by history, Germans and Irish have decisively helped move America away from its old character, and you as an Irish + German New Yorker could hardly be less British in your demeanour/language, which makes the larping all the more strange. Your modus operandi is to deny that the English are a distinct ethnicity, just because you aren't.

You are just a bitter Scotsmen but unfortunately for your mentally retarded ass I know history.

[Ratmir]

Well they're wrong, as usual. It's a specific term referring to the early English people. Nobody else.

I think what those non-Americans mean by Anglo-Saxon would be more properly described as WASP. Would you not agree that for example the Rockefeller family can be rightly considered WASP? Their progenitor was from Germany, I believe. And that's arguably the most influential American family of all times.

[JamesBond007]

I think what those non-Americans mean by Anglo-Saxon would be more properly described as WASP. Would you not agree that for example the Rockefeller family can be rightly considered WASP? Their progenitor was from Germany, I believe. And that's arguably the most influential American family of all times.

He is being autistic and he is straight retarded. The main Germanic peoples that invaded England were Saxons and Danes but they invited some other Germanic tribes over for example Swaffham England :

Swaefas was the name of a powerful Germanic tribe who settled in East Anglia with the incoming Saxons after the Romans had left. It is from this origin that the town got its name – Swaffham.

The term Swaefas sounds like it stems from Suebi or Swabian.

[Ratmir]

He is being autistic and he is straight retarded. The main Germanic peoples that invaded England were Saxons and Danes but they invited some other Germanic tribes over for example Swaffham England :

Swaefas was the name of a powerful Germanic tribe who settled in East Anglia with the incoming Saxons after the Romans had left. It is from this origin that the town got its name – Swaffham.

The term Swaefas sounds like it stems from Suebi or Swabian.

Well, I'm not claiming a half Danish, half Irish person should be considered English, that'd be absurd just on the face of it. But the point is in America some non-British ancestry would have entered the American gene pool very early on and I can understand why to the rest of the world those multigenerational American Joneses, Smiths and Robertsons are just "Anglos". In the same way Eastern Europe is often treated as a Slavic monolith.

[Creoda]

I think what those non-Americans mean by Anglo-Saxon would be more properly described as WASP. Would you not agree that for example the Rockefeller family can be rightly considered WASP? Their progenitor was from Germany, I believe. And that's arguably the most influential American family of all times.

WASP is an Americanism that has no natural currency elsewhere, and I don't use it. It was made-up in the mid 20th century by US sociologists to describe their founding stock protestant elite, so by that definition the Rockefeller's define it. It doesn't make sense for the acronym, but Americans have never cared for accuracy - the Rockefeller origin is in Germany but not in the Anglo-Saxon homeland. The term is practically applied to all wealthy NW European-descended protestants, even if they have little to do with Anglo-Saxons in heritage.

I dislike the way Americans and continental Europeans use 'Anglo-Saxon' for their own purposes. What they're describing is something else in reality. To tell the truth you have to be accurate in your basic terminology, otherwise everything you say is founded on bs.