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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Goran Šarić here say Romanian language is the way on which Slavs speak Latin https://youtu.be/fXRoQBnB0bU?t=6906

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    Owner of that YouTube channel is former Croatian user Robocop, he is visible in the upper right corner on video.

    Goran Šarić is ethnic Croatian. He is Chatholic theologian and self-proclaimed historian. He is autochtonist who claim that Slavs are native of the Balkans and Pannonian plain, according to him Slavs originated from Vinča culture (5700 - 4500 BC), large part of non-Slavic speaking Europeans are of Slavic origin etc. I don't like him.
    Yeah, I listened now, he told even Hungarians are Slovaks as I heard and for Romanian that is slavic in core as I understood, but anyway romanian can't be slavic because base is very latin, doesn't matter that many vocabulary changed and some slavic words inserted, that language wasnt slavic based in a first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyctor View Post
    Yeah, I listened now, he told even Hungarians are Slovaks as I heard and for Romanian that is slavic in core as I understood, but anyway romanian can't be slavic because base is very latin, doesn't matter that many vocabulary changed and some slavic words inserted, that language wasnt slavic based in a first place.
    Modern Romanian language has 14-15% words of Slavic origin, in the past that percentage was higher. Most memorable Slavic word in Romanian language to me is DA (Yes). "Da" for "yes" exist only in Romanian language of all Romance language. As you probably know in all Slavic languages "yes" is "da."

    Jovan Deretić (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_I._Deretić) who had same attitudes as Goran Šarić (G. Šarić is a new Deretić) claimed that Serbs can communicate with Romanian almost without translator as with Poles, Ukrainians or Russians. It is exaggeration. I understand some words when i listen Romanians, but i can't understand partly the whole speech as Russian for example.

    This song has more Slavic vibe than random Romanian language, probably because group is from Moldavia. Many YouTube comments were that sounds Slavic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyctor View Post
    Yeah, I listened now, he told even Hungarians are Slovaks
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.
    In the genetic sense i would say Slovaks and Hungarians are close as Romanians and Bulgarians whose languages also belong to different groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Modern Romanian language has 14-15% words of Slavic origin, in the past that percentage was higher. Most memorable Slavic word in Romanian language to me is DA (Yes). "Da" for "yes" exist only in Romanian language of all Romance language. As you probably know in all Slavic languages "yes" is "da."

    Jovan Deretić (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jovan_I._Deretić) who had same attitudes as Goran Šarić (G. Šarić is a new Deretić) claimed that Serbs can communicate with Romanian almost without translator as with Poles, Ukrainians or Russians. It is exaggeration. I understand some words when i listen Romanians, but i can't understand partly the whole speech as Russian for example.

    This song has more Slavic vibe than random Romanian language, probably because group is from Moldavia. Many YouTube comments were that sounds Slavic.

    I agree with you, usually people grab for few similar words. Probably you know that many young generations in north Croatia don't even understand Slovenian properly, understanding Russian is "mission impossible" for them, let alone Romanian.

    I Remember song from young days, I think it would sound slavic deffinitely for Italians or Spanish speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    In the genetic sense i would say Slovaks and Hungarians are close as Romanians and Bulgarians whose languages also belong to different groups.
    I would be curious for medieval slovak and hungarian genetic comparison. Im 100% sure they were same, but later the german migration has changed a little bit the genetic core of locals. This migration concentrated in central regions where hungarians lived and it maked the hungarians more germaic shifted, and slovaks stayed more slavic shifted, although the both group is very close to each other until the present day. Slovenes are a little bit closer to hungarians, they also got german influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.
    Thanks friend, I just didn't know that Hungarians feels "good" when called "slovaks" and vice versa. I know they share almost same genetic, same as for northern Croatia,which is in same genetic pool with them, and northern parts of Serbia also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    He is right here, hungarians are slovaks and slovaks are hungarians as you wish, doesnt matter. Both are same ethnicity only the language is different. Slovakia and Hungary both consider themselves as successor state of Hungarian Kingdom, they use same national heraldy, symbols but in different color:



    In ethnic sense slovak, hungarian, slovenian = pannonian slavs with pretty same genetic.
    Thanks friend, I just didn't know that Hungarians feels "good" when called "slovaks" and vice versa. I know they share almost same genetic, same as for northern Croatia,which is in same genetic pool with them, and northern parts of Serbia also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    I would be curious for medieval slovak and hungarian genetic comparison. Im 100% sure they were same, but later the german migration has changed a little bit the genetic core of locals. This migration concentrated in central regions where hungarians lived and it maked the hungarians more germaic shifted, and slovaks stayed more slavic shifted, although the both group is very close to each other until the present day. Slovenes are a little bit closer to hungarians, they also got german influence.
    According to one theory Slovenians are descendants of Pannonian Slavs who escaped to southeastern Alps when Magyrs came to Pannonia. Magyars assimilated large part of Pannonian Slavs, it's well known. Slovaks are also related with Pannonians Slavs.

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