Putin establishes Mother Heroine title in Russia

[Loki]

MOSCOW, August 15./TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has established the title Mother Heroine for the mothers of ten or more children, which entitles them to a lump sum payment of one million rubles ($16,138), says a decree published on Monday on the official portal of legal information.

"To establish the title Mother Heroine, to be awarded to a mother who is a citizen of the Russian Federation, who has given birth to and brought up ten or more children who are citizens of the Russian Federation," the document said.

https://tass.com/society/1493923

[KirillMazur]

IMHO, this is nonsense.
1. There are not many such families across the country. They will not affect the overall picture of fertility.
2. In the current conditions, migrants from all sorts of -stans will give birth to their brood, having received Russian citizenship. Even now, on the streets you can see women wrapped in rags from head to toe, with a crowd of small children around. Now there will be even more of them. They will not affect the birth rate in the country, but they will completely change the national composition in the country. Everything is like in Europe. Slavs just do not breed in an modern unstable socio-economic environment (in addition to urban conditions). -stan nations breed, while their living standards are still low (not for long).
3. According to personal experience, in childhood there were friends from a large family (9-10 children in total, I don’t remember exactly), I often visited them at home (5 room apartment). It's a little hell, to be honest. I don't think I need to explain why. All who grew up in that family were "vaccinated" against large families for life. ALL from that family now have one, maximum two children (minority).
More than 3-4 children is really too much for normal conditions. Such large families are normal for a spacious estate, so that grandparents and even uncles/aunts live together under one huge roof. It's good, the little ones have fun with each other while different adults are around, there is a lot to learn from them. To some extent close - a communal apartment. And for ordinary urban conditions - 1-3 children, and "vaccination" against large families most likely will not happen.
4. 1 million rubles is not a serious amount for such a case, and, imo, 10 children is too much for such an award, I would reduce the number to five. 10 children is rare even in Nigeria.
Btw, in large families, parents rarely work at all - various benefits from the state are usually enough for a more or less stable life.
In general, our managers are terribly far from the realities of life.

P.S. Under the USSR, when awarding, adopted children were also taken into account. And, the demographics grew, unlike today. Moreover, the first award of a woman with this order took place in the middle of 1944. And it took for the government of the Russian Federation 30 years to begin to realize something.
There is no confidence in tomorrow - there is no long-term planning horizon - there is no sufficient reproduction.

[Tooting Carmen]

Stalin did this too.

[Loki]

IMHO, this is nonsense.
1. There are not many such families across the country. They will not affect the overall picture of fertility.
2. In the current conditions, migrants from all sorts of -stans will give birth to their brood, having received Russian citizenship. Even now, on the streets you can see women wrapped in rags from head to toe, with a crowd of small children around. Now there will be even more of them. They will not affect the birth rate in the country, but they will completely change the national composition in the country. Everything is like in Europe. Slavs just do not breed in an modern unstable socio-economic environment (in addition to urban conditions). -stan nations breed, while their living standards are still low (not for long).
3. According to personal experience, in childhood there were friends from a large family (9-10 children in total, I don’t remember exactly), I often visited them at home (5 room apartment). It's a little hell, to be honest. I don't think I need to explain why. All who grew up in that family were "vaccinated" against large families for life. ALL from that family now have one, maximum two children (minority).
More than 3-4 children is really too much for normal conditions. Such large families are normal for a spacious estate, so that grandparents and even uncles/aunts live together under one huge roof. It's good, the little ones have fun with each other while different adults are around, there is a lot to learn from them. To some extent close - a communal apartment. And for ordinary urban conditions - 1-3 children, and "vaccination" against large families most likely will not happen.
4. 1 million rubles is not a serious amount for such a case, and, imo, 10 children is too much for such an award, I would reduce the number to five. 10 children is rare even in Nigeria.
Btw, in large families, parents rarely work at all - various benefits from the state are usually enough for a more or less stable life.
In general, our managers are terribly far from the realities of life.

P.S. Under the USSR, when awarding, adopted children were also taken into account. And, the demographics grew, unlike today. Moreover, the first award of a woman with this order took place in the middle of 1944. And it took for the government of the Russian Federation 30 years to begin to realize something.
There is no confidence in tomorrow - there is no long-term planning horizon - there is no sufficient reproduction.

Why do you consider Russia unstable? Because of the international sanctions and Ukraine situation? Does it really have such a big influence on normal Russian daily life?

Bear in mind that things like inflation are global, and even the most stable Western countries are struggling with many problems these days. When all this is considered, I really don't think Russia is in such a bad situation. But the fact is that humans are rarely pleased, the grass always looks greener on the other side

[щрбл]

Stalin did this too.

So did Hitler.

[Loki]

Russia definitely can do with a much larger population. It's by far the largest country in the world, with the most natural resources. Huge swaths of the country are uninhabited. And, with global warming, large parts of Russia will become ideal for habitation. A larger population will boost the economy too. The possibilities are endless, no wonder Western overpopulated countries are so jealous of Russia. The future belongs to Russia.

[Hoosierboy]

Good for Russia. America needs a dictator like Putin. That's the only thing that can save us from degeneracy, illegal immigration, and violent criminals that are mostly POC.

[Teutone]

Good idea but in order to really make a change he needs to use this opportunity and continue to bann every possible western influence.

I mean Kadyrov in Chechnya shows what has to be done, enforce religion on the population and a return to an archaic order of society that was natural to the Russians before the october revolution.

[Loki]

Good idea but in order to really make a change he needs to use this opportunity and continue to bann every possible western influence.

I mean Kadyrov in Chechnya shows what has to be done, enforce religion on the population and a return to an archaic order of society that was natural to the Russians before the october revolution.

That would be great

[Loki]

Good for Russia. America needs a dictator like Putin. That's the only thing that can save us from degeneracy, illegal immigration, and violent criminals that are mostly POC.

Putin is not a dictator, though. But if you mean a strong, popular leader who the people respect, then yes.