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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    And why do you see France as a greater 'problem' for the world than the US?
    Are you kidding me? Tell me of a success story of French colonialism please (and no, Lousiana, Acadia and Quebec don't count, since at this stage the Anglo input on them surpasses whatever initial base they left). Just by the damage they did on this island I have enough to resent them per secula seculorum, and no amount of reparations will begin to cover it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    That´s it, simply English is more useful than French. Even Spanish is more useful than French...

    But something like that could also indicate or be a reflection of something less obvious.

    It could represent a certain blackmail to France for some pro-Moroccan policies as if to say: "We can break the cultural ties on which you rely to act as a bridge between us and Europe (by doing that they get many benefits) and exchange you for others if you follow that path".
    Languages are not just "means of communication". They carry identities and histories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Are you kidding me? Tell me of a success story of French colonialism please (and no, Lousiana, Acadia and Quebec don't count, since at this stage the Anglo input on them surpasses whatever initial base they left). Just by the damage they did on this island I have enough to resent them per secula seculorum, and no amount of reparations will begin to cover it.
    Fine, but US imperialism - whether directly, as in the case of the Phillippines, DR, Cuba and even arguably PR - or indirectly, as in the case of most of Latin America, Middle East and Southeast Asia - has not been wonderful either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Languages are not just "means of communication". They carry identities and histories.
    I have also this in my mind when I wrote my post, shared languages are (can be) shared identities and histories , that creates a link between countries, and countries use this in his benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Languages are not just "means of communication". They carry identities and histories.
    I have added more text to my first post:

    Both Algeria and Morocco are becoming increasingly important in the EU's foreign policies as possible solutions to Europe's gas shortage this winter.

    Until two days ago, France refused to connect the gas pipelines coming from Algeria and Morocco because that way it can make a profit by selling electricity from its many nuclear power plants to the northern countries. (The gas is used to obtain electricity with combined cycle plants, which provide a large part of Europe's electricity because they provided a "green" alternative to the production of electricity from nuclear or from coal burning).
    Were you thinking in something like this as a possible underlying cause?

    Maybe is quite a extreme reading of situation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    I have also this in my mind when I wrote my post, shared languages are (can be) shared identities and histories , that creates a link between countries, and countries use this in his benefit.
    OK, let us invert the scenario. Let us say that (1) After WWII, French and not English became the dominant global language and (2) India, being the jewel in the crown of the British Empire (much like Algeria sort of was in the French Empire), decided to adopt French rather than English as one of its national languages. Doesn't that sound mad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andullero View Post
    Are you kidding me? Tell me of a success story of French colonialism please (and no, Lousiana, Acadia and Quebec don't count, since at this stage the Anglo input on them surpasses whatever initial base they left). Just by the damage they did on this island I have enough to resent them per secula seculorum, and no amount of reparations will begin to cover it.

    No racism here but almost all french colony have been in arab or african land. You know something who success there?
    the colony in India were more than ok.

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    To be honest I'am pretty happy, everything who make us cut every link we have with africa is positiv on the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    To be honest I'am pretty happy, everything who make us cut every link we have with africa is positiv on the long run.
    So you'd like to see French decline globally even more than it has already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Languages are not just "means of communication". They carry identities and histories.
    Why do you care so much about language preservation but show indifference to racial/ethnic preservation? I find it really odd.

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