what do you guys think of the macedonian speaking population of northern Greece?

[Vulfgar]

What do the Greeks here think of the indigenous population of northern Greece? When were they (if so) forced to adopt a "foreign tongue"? do they cluster with the other "Greek" populations? answer in any language that suits you.

[catgeorge]

Yes they cluster with Greek populations. Anthropologically they don't have the Tatar/Cuman , Gorid and Baltid features you see in other Balkan populations. Next question.

[Vulfgar]

Thanks for answering, do you have any autosomicial tests from slavophone/bulgarophone northern greeks? If you have any, post them (if you have permission that is).

[Varda]

What do the Greeks here think of the indigenous population of northern Greece? When were they (if so) forced to adopt a "foreign tongue"? do they cluster with the other "Greek" populations? answer in any language that suits you.

Yes they cluster with Greek populations. Anthropologically they don't have the Tatar/Cuman , Gorid and Baltid features you see in other Balkan populations. Next question.

Petranka Kostadinova (at 0:26 - 0:40) and Vidanka Georgieva (at 3:40 - 3:50) look Baltid/East Slavic. Both are from Slavic speaking minority of Greek Macedonia.

[kingmob]

Vlacho-Bulgarian mix. In western parts, they still speak their regional Bulgarian dialect.

[catgeorge]

Don't listen to these idiots. I know them well and they are a bilingual Greek people.

[catgeorge]

Thanks for answering, do you have any autosomicial tests from slavophone/bulgarophone northern greeks? If you have any, post them (if you have permission that is).

The are all over the forum buddy.

[kingmob]

Catgeorge is extremely defensive because he's one of them.

I will ask one my friends who is Slavophone from Neochorouda if he allows me to post his kit.

He is Slavic R1a.

[catgeorge]

These are Aspars results and he is not even from Greece - he's from Fyromythomania

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.58
2 North_Sea 16.02
3 West_Med 14.96
4 Atlantic 12.50
5 Baltic 11.54
6 Eastern_Euro 10.23
7 West_Asian 9.48
8 Red_Sea 4.33


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.905640
2 Bulgarian @ 8.714704
3 Romanian @ 9.382915
4 Greek @ 9.931087
5 Serbian @ 11.639365
6 Ashkenazi @ 12.551934
7 Tuscan @ 12.819895
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.340239
9 Central_Greek @ 13.699295
10 East_Sicilian @ 14.483737
11 West_Sicilian @ 14.822866
12 North_Italian @ 16.159454
13 South_Italian @ 17.794094
14 Moldavian @ 17.995335
15 Hungarian @ 20.071428
16 Croatian @ 20.650930
17 Austrian @ 20.656704
18 Italian_Jewish @ 21.086277
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 22.499073
20 Sephardic_Jewish @ 22.504097

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Serbian @ 3.925787


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.528728


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++
1 East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 3.155858
2 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Moldavian + Serbian @ 3.215745
3 Central_Greek + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 3.300720
4 Algerian_Jewish + East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.343758
5 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Moldavian + Serbian @ 3.361386
6 Croatian + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian @ 3.426738
7 Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.443877
8 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.446499
9 Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian @ 3.453120
10 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 3.528728
11 Algerian_Jewish + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Serbian @ 3.545475
12 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 3.547862
13 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 3.551023
14 Italian_Abruzzo + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 3.571944
15 Cyprian + East_German + Italian_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 3.574602
16 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + North_Italian @ 3.574872
17 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian + Serbian @ 3.579498
18 Greek + Hungarian + Libyan_Jewish + Serbian @ 3.581651
19 East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.584183
20 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.596330

[catgeorge]

Catgeorge is extremely defensive because he's one of them.

I will ask one my friends who is Slavophone from Neochorouda if he allows me to post his kit.

Defensive - hahahahha

Sorry but they are much more Greek than you.