How do i know if i have jewish heritage? (Turkish)

**mrt19** · 08-31-2022, 08:10 PM

Hey i was wondering if i have any Jewishness in my Genetic but i cannot find any clues or where to start : (
On Gedmatch sometimes i get "Uzbekistan Jew" at distance from (13-17) but it isnt really helpfull and correct lol
maybe some of you guys could help? i also share my Gedmatch kit number so you could take a look if you dont mind : EQ2086600

Thx beforehand : )

**PlattitüdenPaule** · 08-31-2022, 09:19 PM

I dont know if Eurogenes Jtest is a viable option for Turkish people, but you can give it a shot nonetheless. However what`s for certain is, that many Turkish people get jewish populations because of the shared high East Med percentage. A distance of 17 is a pretty far call though.

**Boudin** · 08-31-2022, 11:33 PM

Simulated IllustrativeDNA G25 Modern Ancestry Composition:

Target: mrt19
Distance: 0.0766% / 0.00076554
74.8 West*Asia*and*the*Caucasus
9.4 Southeast*Europe
4.0 Volga-Ural
3.4 South*Siberia
2.6 Central*Asia
2.0 North*Africa
1.4 East*Asia
1.0 Italian*Peninsula*and*Sicily
0.6 Sardinia
0.6 West*Siberia
0.2 Bashkir*and*Siberian*Tatar

**mrt19** · 09-01-2022, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Boudin

Simulated IllustrativeDNA G25 Modern Ancestry Composition:

Target: mrt19
Distance: 0.0766% / 0.00076554
74.8 West*Asia*and*the*Caucasus
9.4 Southeast*Europe
4.0 Volga-Ural
3.4 South*Siberia
2.6 Central*Asia
2.0 North*Africa
1.4 East*Asia
1.0 Italian*Peninsula*and*Sicily
0.6 Sardinia
0.6 West*Siberia
0.2 Bashkir*and*Siberian*Tatar

Wow interesting do you think its an "average value" ? and is an "high" Volga-Ural normal for Turks?

**mrt19** · 09-01-2022, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Stahlbestie91

I dont know if Eurogenes Jtest is a viable option for Turkish people, but you can give it a shot nonetheless. However what`s for certain is, that many Turkish people get jewish populations because of the shared high East Med percentage. A distance of 17 is a pretty far call though.

I tried Jtest :

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 28.47
2 EAST_MED 24.45
3 WEST_MED 9.06
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.57
5 SIBERIAN 6.10
6 ASHKENAZI 5.03
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.85
8 EAST_EURO 4.03
9 ATLANTIC 3.39
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.14
11 EAST_ASIAN 1.71
12 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.06

Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 TR @ 7.825737
2 Armenian @ 14.635573
3 Kurdish @ 14.943512
4 IR @ 15.297750
5 Assyrian @ 18.078184
6 Mandean @ 20.220110
7 GR @ 21.513645
8 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 22.860931
9 IQ @ 23.101290
10 GE @ 23.536936
11 Lezgin @ 24.029356
12 Samaritan @ 32.378246
13 RO @ 32.592541
14 Tuscan @ 32.683388
15 AJ @ 33.473629
16 Druze @ 34.088345
17 Brahui @ 34.371281
18 Balochi @ 35.070347
19 Serbian @ 35.116001
20 North_Italian @ 35.839413

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% TR +50% TR @ 7.825737

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Armenian +25% KZ @ 7.179545

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
1 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + KZ @ 7.179545
2 Armenian + GE + KZ + Samaritan @ 7.531588
3 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Udmurt @ 7.575050
4 GE + GE + KZ + Samaritan @ 7.727911
5 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Komi @ 7.757334
6 Armenian + GE + GR + KZ @ 7.765790
7 Armenian + GE + IQ + KZ @ 7.813253
8 TR + TR + TR + TR @ 7.825737
9 GE + GR + KZ + Mandean @ 7.855900
10 Armenian + Armenian + KZ + TR @ 7.901575
11 Assyrian + GE + GR + KZ @ 7.939089
12 Armenian + GE + KZ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 7.942349
13 GE + IR + Moroccan + TR @ 7.945637
14 GE + IQ + RO + TR @ 7.980912
15 Armenian + Assyrian + GE + KZ @ 7.987757
16 Armenian + GE + KZ + Mandean @ 7.992383
17 GE + Kurdish + Moroccan + TR @ 7.993621
18 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + KZ @ 7.999753
19 Armenian + Armenian + Kurdish + KZ @ 8.090418
20 Assyrian + GE + KZ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.110112

doesnt seem very jewish to be honest but thx : )

**PlattitüdenPaule** · 09-01-2022, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by mrt19

I tried Jtest :

# Population Percent
1 WEST_ASIAN 28.47
2 EAST_MED 24.45
3 WEST_MED 9.06
4 MIDDLE_EASTERN 8.57
5 SIBERIAN 6.10
6 ASHKENAZI 5.03
7 SOUTH_BALTIC 4.85
8 EAST_EURO 4.03
9 ATLANTIC 3.39
10 SOUTH_ASIAN 3.14
11 EAST_ASIAN 1.71
12 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 1.06

Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 TR @ 7.825737
2 Armenian @ 14.635573
3 Kurdish @ 14.943512
4 IR @ 15.297750
5 Assyrian @ 18.078184
6 Mandean @ 20.220110
7 GR @ 21.513645
8 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 22.860931
9 IQ @ 23.101290
10 GE @ 23.536936
11 Lezgin @ 24.029356
12 Samaritan @ 32.378246
13 RO @ 32.592541
14 Tuscan @ 32.683388
15 AJ @ 33.473629
16 Druze @ 34.088345
17 Brahui @ 34.371281
18 Balochi @ 35.070347
19 Serbian @ 35.116001
20 North_Italian @ 35.839413

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% TR +50% TR @ 7.825737

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +25% Armenian +25% KZ @ 7.179545

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++
1 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + KZ @ 7.179545
2 Armenian + GE + KZ + Samaritan @ 7.531588
3 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Udmurt @ 7.575050
4 GE + GE + KZ + Samaritan @ 7.727911
5 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Komi @ 7.757334
6 Armenian + GE + GR + KZ @ 7.765790
7 Armenian + GE + IQ + KZ @ 7.813253
8 TR + TR + TR + TR @ 7.825737
9 GE + GR + KZ + Mandean @ 7.855900
10 Armenian + Armenian + KZ + TR @ 7.901575
11 Assyrian + GE + GR + KZ @ 7.939089
12 Armenian + GE + KZ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 7.942349
13 GE + IR + Moroccan + TR @ 7.945637
14 GE + IQ + RO + TR @ 7.980912
15 Armenian + Assyrian + GE + KZ @ 7.987757
16 Armenian + GE + KZ + Mandean @ 7.992383
17 GE + Kurdish + Moroccan + TR @ 7.993621
18 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + KZ @ 7.999753
19 Armenian + Armenian + Kurdish + KZ @ 8.090418
20 Assyrian + GE + KZ + South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 8.110112

doesnt seem very jewish to be honest but thx : )

See, thats not more AJ than an average Italian would score for instance. And as the creator of this test stated, everything below 25% can be disregarded. Case closed.

**Boudin** · 09-02-2022, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by mrt19

Wow interesting do you think its an "average value" ? and is an "high" Volga-Ural normal for Turks?

I'm not sure, but if you buy real G25 coordinates they're way more accurate, I know they were for me. Who knows, maybe some Jewish will show up.

**Arzanene** · 09-02-2022, 06:33 AM

The Uzbek Jew populations are heavily Iranic, even more than the Iranian jews. so if you have high iranic mixture it could inaccurately show up as part of your results.