Why do White-East Asian marriages generally attract much less opprobrium than White-Black marriages?

[Tooting Carmen]

Just as intermarrying with Whites at a minimum attracts less stigma (when it is not positively embraced) in Asian, Latin American and MENA countries when compared to intermarrying with Blacks, so it seems in the West itself that, even among most really hardcore racist and nationalistic types, intermarrying with East Asians doesn't usually attract anything like the same stigma and anger that intermarrying with Blacks does. So, what are the reasons for this?

- East Asians are perceived as being more intelligent and civilised than Blacks.
- East Asians are perceived as being whiter-looking and/or more physically appealing than Blacks.

[ecptr]

Asians are perceived as 'whiter' than Africans.

Genetically it may be incorrect, but the perception is like that.

[Tooting Carmen]

Asians are perceived as 'whiter' than Africans.

In a cultural or physiological sense?

[Oliver109]

I think it is because E Asians are seen as being classier, it does not mean that White nationalists are fond of this kind of marriage though as the kids still look largely non white(though E Asian mixes seem to more often have kids with white traits like blonde or reddish hair and lighter eyes while with Blacks it is generally only 1/4 black kids that look more light and still very African influenced.

[Tooting Carmen]

I think it is because E Asians are seen as being classier, it does not mean that White nationalists are fond of this kind of marriage though as the kids still look largely non white(though E Asian mixes seem to more often have kids with white traits like blonde or reddish hair and lighter eyes while with Blacks it is generally only 1/4 black kids that look more light and still very African influenced.

Even on this very forum, I seldom see people chimping out at East Asian men who date/marry White women like they do with Black men who do so.

[RogueState]

Well I agree with what has been said

Disclaimer : I'm just stating very broad stereotypes, doesn't mean I agree with it :
Miscegenation with Blacks is perceived as a "downgrading", because on the "symbolic racial ladder", they are on the bottom (just above Australian Aborigines)

While East Asians, even if not perceived as an "upgrading", are still somewhat perceived "higher" on the ladder, so it is less "dramatic"

Another aspect of these interracial dynamics is the gender asymmetry : Males are very "tribal" and perceive women as "conquest" (while women don't have this kind of perceptions in mind). So White males having success with East Asian females is perceived as a success, a sign of manhood, masculinity, manliness

And by contrast, seeing "his" women going with "foreigners" (like Black men) is perceived as an humiliation, like being "stolen", an attack on their manliness

This is why for instance in Latin America, the huge gender asymmetry in terms of relationships during colonial era (the major pattern being Iberian man + Indigenous or Black African woman) played a role in the Iberian mind to be more accepting of miscegenation, than if it would have been the opposite (Iberian women with Indigenous/Black African men : Iberian men would have been butthurt and would have put "segregationist/apartheid", "anti-miscegenation" laws)

[Celestia]

I guess it’s because there aren’t many negative stereotypes connected to East Asians. They also tend to stick to themselves. It is very rare to see a white woman with an East Asian man. White men with East Asian women is a completely different story though.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well I agree with what has been said

Disclaimer : I'm just stating very broad stereotypes, doesn't mean I agree with it :
Miscegenation with Blacks is perceived as a "downgrading", because on the "symbolic racial ladder", they are on the bottom (just above Australian Aborigines)

While East Asians, even if not perceived as an "upgrading", are still somewhat perceived "higher" on the ladder, so it is less "dramatic"

Another aspect of these interracial dynamics is the gender asymmetry : Males are very "tribal" and perceive women as "conquest" (while women don't have this kind of perceptions in mind). So White males having success with East Asian females is perceived as a success, a sign of manhood, masculinity, manliness

And by contrast, seeing "his" women going with "foreigners" (like Black men) is perceived as an humiliation, like being "stolen", an attack on their manliness

This is why for instance in Latin America, the huge gender asymmetry in terms of relationships during colonial era (the major pattern being Iberian man + Indigenous or Black African woman) played a role in the Iberian mind to be more accepting of miscegenation, than if it would have been the opposite (Iberian women with Indigenous/Black African men : Iberian men would have been butthurt and would have put "segregationist/apartheid", "anti-miscegenation" laws)

Plus also there is the class and money aspect: East Asia is on the whole wealthier than Sub-Saharan Africa. (On the other hand, what about African-Americans, or even many parts of the Caribbean like Bahamas, Barbados, St Kitts and St Lucia?) Would even a Chinese cleaner still be perceived as "higher up the ladder" than a Nigerian neurosurgeon?

[Oliver109]

Even on this very forum, I seldom see people chimping out at East Asian men who date/marry White women like they do with Black men who do so.

I'm not a fan of interracial mixing imo but at least with an east Asian parent the kids are brought up in a non ghetto environment and will often identify with both sides of their cultures, that even happens to an extent with half Arab/south Asian children, with half Black kids they nearly always see themselves as more Black.

[luc2112]

Just as intermarrying with Whites at a minimum attracts less stigma (when it is not positively embraced) in Asian, Latin American and MENA countries when compared to intermarrying with Blacks, so it seems in the West itself that, even among most really hardcore racist and nationalistic types, intermarrying with East Asians doesn't usually attract anything like the same stigma and anger that intermarrying with Blacks does. So, what are the reasons for this?

- East Asians are perceived as being more intelligent and civilised than Blacks.
- East Asians are perceived as being whiter-looking and/or more physically appealing than Blacks.

Yes, more civilised