View Poll Results: Which type of Economy is your ideal one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Reptilian View Post
    What would you say if someone said that it's because public sector healthcare isn't sufficiently funded?
    It's funded enough here.

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    Economy based on religious and nationalist brotherhood, I distaste global economy which veers off the true purpose of economy: to make people happy. Other than this, one can say the annunakis using humans as mining labors could be true after all, how else can you explain the superfluous amount of wealth accumulation and exploitations on natural resources that even do not make lives any easier and more harmonious with each other and nature? The anwer would be not to trade with unfriendly countries, at least not officially. I would call it as Brotherly Economy/兄妹经济, just not to deal with ideological aliens as much as possible. I believe trade is like marriage, should be contracted under solid and rigorous social and religious protocols. I do not believe in whatever free market or free economy sort of thing, for me it is like universal marriage/harem or universal human organ market, very immoral by nature.

    I think we can also review our history in this way, how different camps of religious convictions trade with each other, you can surely find many interesting clues as to how corruption crosses the borders of nations and believes and trust in this way. Yes, it is immoral to trade with anyone as long as there is something to gain. See, how our modern world systems are deeply faulted and ill.

    It is not to say there should always be zero amount of trade between 2 mutual-stranger camps, but that the amount and property of trade should be strictly controlled according to a given status of mutual amnesty, and all trades between mutual strangers should be all deal by deal not about granting any favored trade status or legal convenience. In short, the so called WTO should be disbanded forever, all countries should negotiate with another one by one and by each specific protocol for each trading partner. No more global economy !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    It's funded enough here.
    How so? (searching the web I get information about the Russian healthcare system being poorly funded, poorly organized etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    I always prefered private clinics over state ones, I dealed with lots of problems this way. An awful example of state monopoly over medicine is Canada. There should always be a choice, if you want private or state medcial care, if you're ready to wait or you're willing to pay to do something asap. I use 30% state medicine and 70% private medicine. For example, I'm not willing to wait for 6 months some damn MRT, and it will be only one section, when for example one year ago I had to make four sections. Then I had to deny unclear diagnosis with KT with contrast liquid, so I would have to wait for ages again. I paid totally 18000 rub (300 euros atm) and I did everything in short period.

    I'm for mixed economy but when it doesn't interfere the small and middle business or destroys choice.
    In a country with a capitalist economic basis, it cannot be otherwise - state medicine and the entire social sphere in general are constantly subjected to "optimizations", which creates a negative impression and forces the use of private initiatives.
    In practice, soon there may be no choice left, no matter how "social" the state is called on TV. Aren't you tired of these endless collections of millions of rubles for the treatment of children on TV?

    Under Stalin, only the largest and most strategically important enterprises and industries belonged to the state and were regulated by the Plan, and those who ultimately produced goods for the population were artel. There were also individual entrepreneurs. So artel production and individual entrepreneurs worked in accordance with capitalist laws, that is, their development was determined by the capitalist law of the market and profit. All other enterprises worked and developed in accordance with the Plan, while the role of money in their work was constantly decreasing.
    And Khrushchev abolished artels, began to socialize private cattle and gardens. He thus introduced Trotsky's ideas of state capitalism. Thus, it was Khrushchev (and his reforms about worshipping profit) who destroyed the economic basis of socialism, and then denigrated I. V. Stalin so that there would be no return. After Khrushchev, the Soviet Union became a state with a capitalist economy and socialist distribution. This contradiction continued until 1993, when Soviet power was shot from tank guns, and state capitalism reached its natural evolution to the private one.
    So our state medicine is crippled by capitalism, and has no reliable support under itself.

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    Distributism

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    It's odd not to see Switzerland as an example in first group
    Free market

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    To not give anything free to parasites who don't work. That's all.

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    I have no idea and I don't really care, but I like the idea of ​​living well in the countryside, just planting and raising oxen, for your own sustenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KirillMazur View Post
    Mixed economy, with state ownership of large means of production and strategic sectors (medicine, social services, education, military). Without private banks - only one, owned by the state.
    At the same time, do not prohibit small-scale private production, directing its development in the cooperative direction. Piecework wages.
    In essence, this will not be a ban on capitalism, but regulation/attempt to find a viable hybrid of cap and soc.
    The main problem here is to resolve the issue of the possibility of separating large managers into a separate caste that is not accountable to the population.
    your description seems to fit more with the social-liberalism of john stuart mill and jeremy bentham before being completly perveted ,only a few people are aware of it
    i'am more mutualist/utilitarist with a light inflexion for the social-liberalism of Mill and Bentham
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism
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