The lost Spanish of Philippines

[Tenma de Pegasus]

[GaneshD'Souza]

they're not lost. They're still here, living in the Philippines

But most of them don't speak Spanish anymore

[SilverKnight]

I've always found Filipino/ Spanish women extremely attractive.

[perikolez]

they're not lost. They're still here, living in the Philippines

But most of them don't speak Spanish anymore

If they dont speak spanish, then they arent spanish.

[TheForeigner]

Funny how after centuries of Spanish rule, the Philippines has a small number of mestizo, native Spanish speakers and few second language Spanish speakers, but after only less than 50 years of US rule it has English as its second official language!

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Funny how after centuries of Spanish rule, the Philippines has a small number of mestizo, native Spanish speakers and few second language Spanish speakers, but after only less than 50 years of US rule it has English as its second official language!

But the main language, Tagalog is almost a hybrid of spanish.

Also I dont know if you understood the Spanish of the video, but most of the dominant Spanish speaking Manila was killed and destroyed in WWII. Unfortunetely.

[TheForeigner]

But the main language, Tagalog is almost a hybrid of spanish.

Hm, didn't know about that. I thought it was just an Austronesian language.

[perikolez]

Hm, didn't know about that. I thought it was just an Austronesian language.

Yes, it is an austronesian language but has heavy english and spanish influence. I think that rich filipinos (spanish filipinos included) speak and admixture of tagalog and english or only english.

[GaneshD'Souza]

But the main language, Tagalog is almost a hybrid of spanish.

Also I dont know if you understood the Spanish of the video, but most of the dominant Spanish speaking Manila was killed and destroyed in WWII. Unfortunetely.

Actually that's not true. A couple hundred Spanish were killed during WW2 and a couple hundred more left on a boat to Spain. The Spanish neighborhoods in Manila were mostly destroyed, but that caused most of their population to shift to the Manila suburbs, where you'll still find them today.

We have census data that shows that most Spanish-speakers were not killed during WW2. The 1948 says the number of Spanish speakers was 345,000. Of that, 225,000 spoke Spanish as their mother tongue.

https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

Keep in mind, that's 3 years AFTER WW2 ended, when supposedly most of the Spanish population of the Philippines died or migrated away. That's clearly a myth because the number of Spanish-speakers from the 1939 Census to the 1948 Census went from 417,375 to 345,111. That's a reduction of 72,000. A big part of that is because the 1939 Census included Chavacano (Spanish creole) in the number of Spanish-speakers. The 1948 Census only included actual Spanish-speakers. The 1948 Census is when Chavacano was added as a language, and there were 100,645 Chavacano speakers. So that's where most of the 1939-1948 reduction in Spanish-speakers went to. Many Chavacano were also mestizos, but they were no longer counted as Spanish-speakers. Many mestizos also didn't even know Spanish and spoke another language as their mother tongue. The number of real Spanish-speakers actually increased slightly from the census before WW2 to the census after WW2

Also, the census at that time only allowed people to choose one foreign language. So if a Filipino spoke English and Spanish fluently, but their English was more fluent, then they would mark English, not Spanish. English was widely popular as a second language at that time. Even more Filipinos spoke English than Tagalog at that time. So clearly there was a number of Spanish mestizos who weren't counted as Spanish speakers because they were more fluent in English. The Philippines had already been under American rule for 2 generations.

It's not that Spanish-speakers died out. It's that the switched to English as their main language. I can guarantee you that none of these three Filipinos can speak Spanish fluently despite looking Spanish



Spanish-Filipinos now use English, Taglish, or Bisaya as their primary languages now

[GaneshD'Souza]

Yes, it is an austronesian language but has heavy english and spanish influence. I think that rich filipinos (spanish filipinos included) speak and admixture of tagalog and english or only english.

Yeah. Even very Spanish-looking Filipinos can speak some Tagalog


This guy speaks Bicolano as his first language. I don't know if he speaks Spanish. He also speaks Tagalog, but this video is in Bicolano. There's a lot of Spanish words in this language


This guy, even when he's speaking English, he sounds like a working-class Filipino. He doesn't have an upper-class accent. And he also speaks Tagalog in the video. He speaks Taglish like a regular urban Filipino


The lady on the right, her first languages are Bisaya and Spanish. But I have never heard her speak Spanish. In the video she's speaking Tagalog and English. So she knows 4 languages


He has the typical Spanish mestizo accent in English