Is dark hair valued in regions with blonde majority?

[capocannoniere]

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[Token]

Ok. But you cited past contexts.

In contemporary Brazil, does this association really exist in a literal sense? Looking at pics of the upper class Brazilians, and the traditional elite, they look like generic Southern Europeans, mainly dark haired.

Proportionally speaking, there are probably more blondes among poor colonos of German extraction than among rich Brazilians.

I never said that elite Brazilians are not mainly dark-haired, nor that poor German colonos are not blonder than rich Brazilians. I don't understand your point.

My point is that historically in predominantly blond populations dark hair was usually associated with bad things (bad luck, low social class, etc). Today it tends more towards neutrality in my experience.

Another fact is that among predominantly dark-haired populations blond hair was usually seen as a highly desirable trait, and it is still so today.

[Latinus]

I never said that elite Brazilians are not mainly dark-haired, nor that poor German colonos are not blonder than rich Brazilians. I don't understand your point.

My point is that historically in predominantly blond populations dark hair was usually associated with bad things (bad luck, low social class, etc). Today it tends more towards neutrality in my experience.

Another fact is that among predominantly dark-haired populations blond hair was usually seen as a highly desirable trait, and it is still so today.

1: Yeah, you never said that and I never claimed you said it. I simply took a bridge in your post about having grow up among blonde saxons. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

But let me ask you: these German-Brazilians colonos think that dark hair is a lower class feature compared to blonde, or they don't think about these things at all?

2: True. Dark hair alone is seen as neutral, not as positive/idealized as blonde people, neither as negative. To me, it's only seen as positive when it's mixed with blue eyes and fair skin, which gives a beautiful contrast.

3: Yeah. And even if not literal, Brazilians tend to associate rich people with blonde hair and blue eyes, not because most rich Brazilians have it, not at all, but simply because in the higher classes, for being whiter, this trait, even if not the majority among them, will be more spread than in the masses.

[capocannoniere]

Northern European facial features with blond or brown hair > any wog or latin mongrel with black hair.

This comparison is as if I stated as an objective truth, with these three samples, "Haha Northern Europeans look like Shrek, North Italians and Mestizos are ubermensch lol".

[Token]

1: Yeah, you never said that and I never claimed you said it. I simply took a bridge in your post about having grow up among blonde saxons. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

But let me ask you: these German-Brazilians colonos think that dark hair is a lower class feature compared to blonde, or they don't think about these things at all?

2: True. Dark hair alone is seen as neutral, not as positive/idealized as blonde people, neither as negative. To me, it's only seen as positive when it's mixed with blue eyes and fair skin, which gives a beautiful contrast.

3: Yeah. And even if not literal, Brazilians tend to associate rich people with blonde hair and blue eyes, not because most rich Brazilians have it, not at all, but simply because in the higher classes, for being whiter, this trait, even if not the majority among them, will be more spread than in the masses.

1. Most German colonos are straight up Nazi when they don't need to be politically correct, anything associated with Brazilians is seen as shit.

3. The same association exists in most places if the world, and it seems to have existed since before Christ in Europe and beyond.

[Tongio]

3. The same association exists in most places if the world, and it seems to have existed since before Christ in Europe and beyond.

Just adding to your comment,the upper classes are lighter more often big time because they had monopoly over the sexual market, blonde woman being by natural law perceived as more atractive were the preferered wifes picked by the powerful.During the formation of modern capitalism bourgeois wanting to be more like the pre existing nobility, interrmarried with them , who were blonder ,not just because of the mentioned selection, but also because of their higher germanic ancestry.

[Token]

Just adding to your comment,the upper classes are lighter more often big time because they had monopoly over the sexual market, blonde woman being by natural law perceived as more atractive were the preferered wifes picked by the powerful.During the formation of modern capitalism bourgeois wanting to be more like the pre existing nobility, interrmarried with them , who were blonder ,not just because of the mentioned selection, but also because of their higher germanic ancestry.

Good observation. I've read that the new "nobility" in Brazil tried to emulate the old nobility and intermarried with them to try to assimilate. The new nobles were seen as inferior by the olds.

[Spoke]

I dont think it is everywhere. In Italy among Italians for example dark hair is in the minority as most Italians are gingers. Dark haired people are seen as terrones/not real Italians and a sign you're probably not really fully native Italian or you're an immigrant from dark European countries

[Duffmannn]

No, even in Northern Europe the preferred bleaching hair color for women is blonde.

[Tongio]

Good observation. I've read that the new "nobility" in Brazil tried to emulate the old nobility and intermarried with them to try to assimilate. The new nobles were seen as inferior by the olds.

Rightfully, having slaves making you rich doesnt make one noble, far from It, makes you dependent, vulneráble and hated/despised, the sad thing to observe is the decadênce of the previous real nobility, corrupted by excessive material fetishisation, among many other factors.
I will quit here not to go too off topic , as some previously observed this is my sin.