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    Standard calc.

    Mom serb dalmatia

    Target: Mira_scaled
    Distance: 1.8390% / 0.01839049
    50.6 Slavic_Migration
    33.6 Roman-Byzantine
    14.0 Germanic_Migration
    1.8 Steppe_Nomad

    Dad flemish

    Target: Pascal_scaled
    Distance: 2.0195% / 0.02019481
    86.4 Germanic_Migration
    13.6 Paleo_Balkanic

    Myself

    Target: Q_S_scaled
    Distance: 1.5817% / 0.01581709
    44.0 Germanic_Migration
    27.4 Slavic_Migration
    20.2 Paleo_Balkanic
    7.4 Roman-Byzantine
    1.0 Steppe_Nomad

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    Standard Version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.5341% / 0.03534069
    62.0 Paleo_Balkanic
    21.2 Germanic_Migration
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.4 SSA
    3.6 Roman-Byzantine

    Extended version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.4664% / 0.03466380
    79.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
    7.4 Roman-Byzantine
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.4 SSA
    0.2 Pannonian_Avar

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.4666% / 0.03466561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    79.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
    7.0 Roman-Byzantine
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.6 SSA

    Simplified version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.6082% / 0.03608191
    60.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    26.4 Germanic_Migration
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.0 SSA

    Same results on ADC: 0.25 and ADC: 0.50
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    You don't pass in Europe. Amerindian admixture is evident (castizo or harnizo)...

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    I wanted to try this calculator with my G25 coords (last time it was with k36)

    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 1.6133% / 0.01613334
    65.6 Slavic_Migration
    20.4 Roman-Byzantine
    7.6 Germanic_Migration
    6.4 Paleo_Balkanic

    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 1.4993% / 0.01499267
    64.4 Slavic_Migration
    15.2 Roman-Byzantine
    10.6 Thracian
    8.0 Germanic_Migration
    1.2 Hunnic
    0.6 Magyar_Elite


    Target: Vitez_scaled
    Distance: 1.5188% / 0.01518757
    63.6 Slavic_Migration
    30.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    3.6 Germanic_Migration
    2.4 Steppe_Nomad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
    I made several versions of the calc:

    Standard:
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    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282,0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
    Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003
    Expanded:
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    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
    Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592,0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
    Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
    Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0.0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
    Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
    Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576
    Simplified:
    Code:
    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711,0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003
    STANDARD

    Target: Brad_scaled
    Distance: 1.9278% / 0.01927807

    91.8 Germanic_Migration
    4.8 Slavic_Migration
    2.4 Roman-Byzantine
    1.0 Steppe_Nomad


    EXPANDED

    Target: Brad_scaled
    Distance: 1.8664% / 0.01866416

    88.8 Germanic_Migration
    4.8 Sarmatian
    3.8 Slavic_Migration
    2.6 Roman-Byzantine


    SIMPLIFIED

    Target: Brad_scaled
    Distance: 1.9410% / 0.01940981

    91.8 Germanic_Migration
    4.6 Slavic_Migration
    2.4 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    1.2 Steppe_Nomad


    So is this test basically confirming the total Balkan-Caucasus element I inherited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Standard Version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.5341% / 0.03534069
    62.0 Paleo_Balkanic
    21.2 Germanic_Migration
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.4 SSA
    3.6 Roman-Byzantine

    Extended version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.4664% / 0.03466380
    79.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
    7.4 Roman-Byzantine
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.4 SSA
    0.2 Pannonian_Avar

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.4666% / 0.03466561 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    79.6 Illyrian-Pannonian
    7.0 Roman-Byzantine
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.6 SSA

    Simplified version with Amerindian and SSA references:

    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 3.6082% / 0.03608191
    60.8 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    26.4 Germanic_Migration
    6.8 Yukpa
    6.0 SSA

    Same results on ADC: 0.25 and ADC: 0.50
    Can you DM me those references or post them here? I'd like to try it that way also. Thanks!!

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    Distance: 2.6609% / 0.02660893
    49.6 Slavic_Migration
    28.4 Roman-Byzantine
    18.2 Paleo_Balkanic
    3.8 Germanic_Migration

    Expanded

    Distance: 2.6242% / 0.02624219
    47.4 Slavic_Migration
    28.8 Roman-Byzantine
    23.8 Illyrian-Pannonian

    Simplified

    Distance: 2.7154% / 0.02715431
    50.2 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    48.4 Slavic_Migration
    1.4 Germanic_Migration

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Target: CordedFather
    Distance: 2.0506% / 0.02050594
    74.0 Germanic_Migration
    17.8 Slavic_Migration
    8.2 Thracian

    Target: CordedMother
    Distance: 1.5333% / 0.01533271
    59.4 Slavic_Migration
    31.0 Germanic_Migration
    6.6 Roman-Byzantine
    2.2 Illyrian-Pannonian
    0.8 Pannonian_Avar
    Almost my mother’s literal amount of AJ admixture. Goes to show that that group is likely mostly Greco-Roman. Of course there’s some distance here, etc etc, but it’s still probably largely accurate..
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    Target: sample
    Distance: 1.3500% / 0.01349955
    63.0 Slavic_Migration
    36.2 Germanic_Migration
    0.8 Illyrian-Pannonian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ombustman View Post
    Standard:
    Target: Ombustman
    Distance: 3.9188% / 0.03918789
    74.4 Roman-Byzantine
    25.6 Steppe_Nomad

    Expanded:
    Target: Ombustman
    Distance: 3.7468% / 0.03746782
    77.2 Roman-Byzantine
    20.0 Hunnic
    2.8 Sarmatian

    Simplified:
    Target: Ombustman
    Distance: 6.2968% / 0.06296755
    73.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    26.4 Steppe_Nomad
    With my real coordinates now:
    Standard:
    Target: Ombustman_scaled
    Distance: 4.2176% / 0.04217639
    75.0 Roman-Byzantine
    25.0 Steppe_Nomad

    Expanded:
    Target: Ombustman_scaled
    Distance: 4.0425% / 0.04042453
    75.0 Roman-Byzantine
    11.8 Hunnic
    7.6 Sarmatian
    5.6 Pannonian_Avar

    Simplified:
    Target: Ombustman_scaled
    Distance: 6.0808% / 0.06080752
    74.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    25.4 Steppe_Nomad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    All averages were hand-made by me entirely from ancient samples (each average is made from several ancient averages).
    I made several versions of the calc:

    Standard:
    Code:
    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Paleo_Balkanic,0.1250736,0.1541351,0.0214736,-0.0289725,0.0317036,-0.0113537,0.0000921,0.0003724,0.0095636,0.0325282,0.0038978,0.0074054,-0.0149716,-0.0019149,-0.0129568,-0.0088532,0.0048716,0.0028826,0.0048936,-0.009057,-0.0067342,0.0052338,-0.000704,0.0004862,-0.0035851
    Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003
    Expanded:
    Code:
    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Thracian,0.1229291,0.1594381,0.0086944,-0.0522363,0.0300569,-0.0197858,-0.0014883,-0.0002824,0.0120557,0.0404972,0.0076595,0.0064775,-0.0152542,0.0018809,-0.019785,-0.0139142,0.0063887,0.0051661,0.0057474,-0.0131731,-0.0088317,0.0047606,-0.0022323,-0.0012187,-0.0040449
    Illyrian-Pannonian,0.1272181,0.1488321,0.0342527,-0.0057087,0.0333504,-0.0029216,0.0016724,0.0010272,0.0070714,0.0245592,0.000136,0.0083333,-0.014689,-0.0057107,-0.0061287,-0.0037922,0.0033546,0.0005992,0.0040397,-0.0049409,-0.0046368,0.005707,0.0008244,0.0021912,-0.0031253
    Roman-Byzantine,0.1077269,0.1542374,-0.0140758,-0.053704,0.0131142,-0.021062,-0.0024054,-0.0006782,0.0066427,0.0256145,0.0038179,0.0044744,-0.0088214,-0.0015811,-0.0102403,-0.0006085,0.0082404,-0.0034113,0.0011829,-0.0012142,-0.001814,0.0021229,-0.0029867,-0.0000996,-0.0000681
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Sarmatian,0.1117449,0.0532282,0.0336943,0.0690486,-0.0267943,0.0245853,0.002045,0.0001037,-0.02861,-0.0392488,-0.0043743,0.0011002,-0.0002522,-0.0238538,0.0194891,0.0114935,-0.0005505,-0.0010697,-0.0014915,0.0001637,-0.0116124,0.0009816,0.002053,0.0060253,0.0002131
    Hunnic,0.0623034,-0.2253944,0.0506864,0.011594,-0.0454768,-0.0115619,0.0067906,0.0088539,-0.0007999,-0.0094761,-0.0239025,0.0016617,0.0059201,-0.011449,0.0075504,0.0112353,0.0019079,0.001298,0.0008026,0.0065537,-0.0176596,0.0057404,-0.0027201,0.006437,-0.0021869
    Pannonian_Avar,0.0600495,-0.2622124,0.0721845,-0.0157319,-0.0572629,-0.0340561,0.0131888,0.0188694,0.0049168,0.0076355,-0.0125681,0.0006913,-0.0028951,0.0011079,0.0001557,-0.0009794,0.000845,-0.0036218,-0.0001288,0.010093,-0.0180092,-0.0034169,-0.0155848,-0.0021811,-0.0004697
    Magyar_Elite,0.0864396,-0.1261699,0.07567,0.0510302,-0.0546241,-0.0077802,0.0066908,0.0107116,-0.0067244,-0.0295977,0.0190754,-0.0012256,0.0112286,-0.044588,-0.0056392,-0.000843,0.0006374,-0.0005854,-0.0030902,-0.0045111,-0.008655,0.0134452,0.0072282,0.001291,-0.0039576
    Simplified:
    Code:
    Slavic_Migration,0.1287235,0.1278568,0.0703873,0.0593586,0.0370186,0.0218888,0.0084246,0.0138402,0.0011992,-0.0197463,-0.0016042,-0.007926,0.0132735,0.0208197,-0.0130785,-0.0031077,0.0047095,-0.0005076,0.0020921,-0.0003468,-0.0039457,-0.0034492,0.0079812,-0.0059772,-0.0007285
    Pre-Slavic_Balkans,0.1192914,0.1541692,0.0096238,-0.0372163,0.0255072,-0.0145898,-0.0007404,0.0000222,0.0085899,0.0302236,0.0038711,0.0064284,-0.0129215,-0.0018036,-0.0120513,-0.006105,0.0059946,0.0007847,0.0036567,-0.0064427,-0.0050942,0.0041968,-0.0014649,0.000291,-0.0024128
    Germanic_Migration,0.1272617,0.1307054,0.0634115,0.0481055,0.0386554,0.017438,0.0056887,0.0049597,0.0004951,-0.0023627,-0.0054779,0.0054689,-0.0138928,-0.007249,0.0162438,0.0113047,-0.0021608,0.0017349,0.0042478,0.0038651,0.0040752,0.0039406,0.002548,0.0155337,-0.0003105
    Steppe_Nomad,0.0801344,-0.1401371,0.0580588,0.0289852,-0.0460395,-0.0072032,0.0071788,0.0096346,-0.0078044,-0.0176718,-0.0054424,0.0005569,0.0035004,-0.0196957,0.005389,0.0052266,0.00071,-0.0009947,-0.000977,0.0030748,-0.013984,0.0041876,-0.0022559,0.002893,-0.0016003

    Standard:

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.3530% / 0.02353020
    60.2 Slavic_Migration
    37.6 Paleo_Balkanic
    1.6 Roman-Byzantine
    0.6 Steppe_Nomad




    Expanded:

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.0933% / 0.02093271
    66.0 Slavic_Migration
    33.2 Thracian
    0.8 Pannonian_Avar




    Simplified:

    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.4043% / 0.02404284
    63.2 Slavic_Migration
    36.6 Pre-Slavic_Balkans
    0.2 Steppe_Nomad
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    Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.0944% / 0.02094437
    60.0 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
    23.0 Paleobalkanic:MKD_Anc
    17.0 Byzantine:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz

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