The Azerbaijani army takes Lachin

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Don't you see? The Turano-Tatar wet dream was to take the dominance in the Caucasus with the help of the EU/Germany and the Semitic Jews/Israel.

But the US is against it. Russia has its own problems, so with diminishing power of Russia in the Caucasus, it is actually Persia that is winning back power in the Caucasus. Why? Because before Russia it was actually Persia that ruled the Caucasus. So if Russia is out, then it will be Iran in again.

The US is seeing in Russia a bigger enemy than in Iran.
The policy makers in the US are not against the Aryan people in northwestern Asia in general. And the US is not even opposing Persian people. It is Israel (Semitic Jews) that is against the Aryans (Persians and Kurds), but the US is not listening to Israel/Semitic Jews this time at all.


The US is pro 'regime change in Iran' and supports the 'establishment of Great Kurdistan'. There is no place for a Turano-Tataric race in the Middle East. They are proven to be ineffective and useless. It is a survival of the fittest. Turano-Tataric race is clearly the weakest link.

what part of caucasus do you imply? some random wild savage mountain peasants in dagestan successfully defeated heavily armored troops of persians and their leader nader shah literally with bare hands

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take your pills

[Guti]

what part of caucasus do you imply? some random wild savage mountain peasants in dagestan successfully defeated heavily armored troops of persians and their leader nader shah literally with bare hands

What do you mean?

The Caucasus was already part of the Medes, later on the Persians took it over from the Medes. The Caucasus Mountains were part of the Aryan Empires since the very beginning of the Aryan Empires.





Also, Azerbaijan (eastern parts of the Caucasus) was part of 'Iran' until very recent times.

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What do you mean?

The Caucasus was already part of the Medes, later on the Persians took it over from the Medes. The Caucasus Mountains were part of the Aryan Empires since the very beginning of the Aryan Empires.





Also, Azerbaijan (eastern parts of the Caucasus) was part of 'Iran' until very recent times.

eastern parts of caucasus you possibly mean the long forgotten history of dagestan campaign where nader shah failed his mission to conquest of those lands in order to make them a part of his empire.. azerbaijani people are actually persians themselves who adopted the turkish language

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eastern parts of caucasus you possibly mean the long forgotten history of dagestan campaign where nader shah failed his mission to conquest of those lands in order to make them a part of his empire.. azerbaijani people are actually persians themselves who adopted the turkish language

no it's not true

[Babak]

^Nader took over the caucasus briefly, but he lost it rather quickly. With that said, the entire caucasus region was occupied and conquered many times by Turks.

And azerbaijanis arent and werent originally persians either. Their ethnogenesis formed as a result of intermarriage between Iranians, turks, and caucasians.

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east eurasian (mongoloid averages)

Azerbaijanis from Azerbaijan and Iran: 4-11% (Average: 6-7%)
Anatolian Turks: 0-18% (Average: 8%)

[Guti]

eastern parts of caucasus you possibly mean the long forgotten history of dagestan campaign where nader shah failed his mission to conquest of those lands in order to make them a part of his empire.. azerbaijani people are actually persians themselves who adopted the turkish language

Sure, but before Islam, Dagestan was part of the Median, Parthian and Persian Empires. People who lived there were Zoroastrians, just like the Persians. Later on the Arabs defeated the Persians in the Caucasus and people of Dagestani converted into Islam.

But before Islam, and before the Arab conquests, the area what you call Dagestan nowadays was part of the Medo-Parthian-Persian Empires.

At the end, it is all about politics and war. Lands change hands fast. The Dagestan region changed hands frequently between the Persians and Russians. But at the end the Russians won because Dagestan is part of Russia nowadays


Nevertheless once the whole Caucasus was part of the ancient Aryan World of the Zoroastrians.

[Babak]

^Right but it doesnt mean Iran is the sole owner of these lands. Conquering doesnt automatically conclude ownership. Using this logic, Saudi arabia owns the entire levant lmao

[tk'es]

^Nader took over the caucasus briefly, but he lost it rather quickly. With that said, the entire caucasus region was occupied and conquered many times by Turks.

And azerbaijanis arent and werent originally persians either. Their ethnogenesis formed as a result of intermarriage between Iranians, turks, and caucasians.

conquered by steppe turkic nomads, but not turks.. and azerbaijani culture as well as the religion is similar to persian, they're definitely heavily mixed, local indigenous groups together with turks and some iranic peoples