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Thread: Doesn't this Yamnaya PIE reconstruction look a little bit mexican?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guti View Post
    I remember that in the early nineties a new model for the Indo-European language family origin was introduced by Gamkrelidze and Ivanov and it was almost immediately accepted by the academic world. So, this model was first pioneered by the Russians/USSR.





    At the beginning Gamkrelidze and Ivanov thought that proto-Indo-European came from around the 'Armenian plateau', but recent academic work has shown that it has to be not from the 'Armenian Plateau' but more to the southeast of it, because proto-Indo-Hittite (first proto-Indo-Europeans) had not only the biggest part of Iran_ChL/CHG in them but also some Mesopotamian-like ancestry in them.


    proto-Indo-Hittite (PIEans) = Iran_ChL/CHG + some ancient Mesopotamian.


    That is why the focus is now shifted from the 'Armenian Plateau' more toward 'Kurdistan'.
    Here is the most recent study on this issue: https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abm4247
    Wow. Very interesting, especially the info you just told me in regards to the proto-Indo-Hittites, I'm going to watch those videos and read more about them when I get home later.

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    Mexicans speak an Indo-European language

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    No, too Caucasoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliades View Post
    Wow. Very interesting, especially the info you just told me in regards to the proto-Indo-Hittites, I'm going to watch those videos and read more about them when I get home later.
    Well damn, didn't know I had brown ancestors lol
    It shouldn't be surprising, everyone were "brown" around that time and age, even the WHGs. BLond hair started to appear along with CWC/Funnelbeaker, that means much later.. Even some neolithics had mutation for blond hair. I began to believe too that this idea of very white WHGs and PIEs is overrated. they were all swarthy as hell back then.

    But essentially, I think some later PIEs had dark blond hair,white skin, and brown eyes actually. They were stemming from ANE...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    No, too Caucasoid.
    Even that mexican looks caucasoid. There are mexicans who have that skull shape, probably a recombination resulting in this archaic face. So this is why Yamnaya and others might have been of the same combination that they looked almost the same.

    There's also anthony quinn who looked like this, and a european example: Simon Callow.

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    They can be both highly ANE, Mexicans through Amerindian admix, so that would be expected to find some similarities at least.

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    I see it but it looks more eastern Iranian pamiridish to me

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