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    Default Bronze Age / Iron Age Albania DNA

    Samples found in North Eastern Albania , in Kukes, near the border of Kosovo. Mostly samples that belong to Y-DNA J2b2-L283 and R1b-L23 AFAIK

    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16251
    1.07484410 Albanians_Montenegro
    1.07831303 Albanian_Kosovo
    1.14188940 Albanian_north

    1.14271966 GR_Thesalloniki
    1.17530993 Albanian_south
    1.20025960 IT_Friuli
    1.22644462 GR_Thrace
    1.24474885 IT_Marche
    1.26894943 GR_Central
    1.27190658 GR_Macedonia

    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_1d.rel.I16256_I17633
    2.17016013 Albanian_Kosovo
    2.17512344 IT_Ladinia
    2.18195216 Albanians_Montenegro
    2.18261172 IT_Veneto

    2.20123659 IT_Trentino
    2.20877324 IT_Piedmont
    2.24590834 Moldova_sud
    2.24797207 Albanian_north
    2.26309665 IT_Friuli
    2.28406401 Tirol


    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_EBA_I14689
    2.26200081 Abazin
    2.27705781 Nogai_Dagestan
    2.42679020 Kumyk
    2.50643175 Cirkassian

    2.50839349 Kabardin
    2.54580501 Tabassaran
    2.57755846 Avar
    2.58018007 Kaitag
    2.59597530 Lezgin
    2.69214487 Tsakhur

    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16254
    1.38996490 IT_Emilia-Romagna
    1.40692595 IT_Toscania
    1.45480085 IT_Marche
    1.47499639 IT_Lazio
    1.48542944 Albanian_south
    1.49398528 Albanian_north

    1.51249405 IT_Molise
    1.51453737 FR_Corsica
    1.53371901 Albanian_Kosovo
    1.54069327 GR_Ipeiros

    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I16253
    1.57707919 IT_Lombardia
    1.60222133 IT_Toscania
    1.69901036 IT_Emilia-Romagna
    1.70666551 Albanians_FYROM
    1.79720556 Albanian_south
    1.82056761 Albanian_north


    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_Anc_I14692
    1.29229025 IT_Toscania
    1.29838966 IT_Emilia-Romagna
    1.33822026 IT_Liguria

    1.43573303 IT_Lombardia
    1.45826258 GR_Ipeiros
    1.50588238 FR_Corsica
    1.51392313 Swiss_Italian
    1.52106062 IT_Trentino
    1.53061001 Albanian_Kosovo
    1.54144663 IT_Marche

    Sample found in Northern Macedonia:

    Distance to: MKD_BA:I7231
    0.02721903 Albanian


    Samples found in Croatia:


    Distance to: HRV_IA_I3313
    1.41428962 IT_Veneto
    1.51111193 IT_Aosta
    1.53241280 Albanian_Kosovo
    1.53417027 Albanian_north

    1.53700296 IT_Friuli
    1.55188512 IT_Piedmont
    1.58708565 Albanians_Montenegro
    1.61639078 Albanians_FYROM

    1.62339206 IT_Lombardia
    1.64073982 IT_Trentino

    Distance to: HRV_Cetina_BA:I11843
    0.02479983 Albanian

    I would like to thank some of the members at Anthrogenica and Eupedia for these samples.

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    EV-13 confirmed to of also been an Illyrian Y-DNA

    5724 HRV_IA Sv. Križ Brdovečki Croatia E-Y16721 U5b1d1a
    So far 4 Illyrian samples found with EV-13.

    Sample in North Macedonia E-L618:

    I10166 -300 MKD_Anc Isar Marvinci, V. Marvinci-Valandovo, Southwest Necropolis North Macedonia E-L618
    EV-13 found in Turkey:

    I8367 600 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A_brother.I8366 Basilica (Marmara, Iznik) Turkey 40,42 29,71 45,31% E-V13 T2g1
    I8366 600 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A Basilica (Marmara, Iznik) Turkey 40,42 29,71 71,10% E-Y30977 T2g1

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    I will update with more samples as I go.

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    My mistake, the Caucasian like sample is from the Early Bronze Age.

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    One of those samples in the OP does not cluster like a Caucasian but Moldovan. The guy ran it wrong. These are G25 for samples from Albania:

    Distance to: ALB_MBA:I8471
    0.04696172 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.04791923 Italian_Tuscany
    0.04792832 Swiss_Italian
    0.04809151 Italian_Piedmont
    0.04840223 French_Corsica
    0.04909330 Italian_Veneto
    0.05010355 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.05051373 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.05101654 Italian_Bergamo
    0.05131666 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.05144378 Albanian_Pukė
    0.05148225 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.05176896 Italian_Umbria
    0.05203126 Albanian_Montenegro

    0.05213647 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.05267451 Albanian_Labėria
    0.05271834 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.05273225 Albanian_Dibra
    0.05300211 French_Provence
    0.05317641 Albanian_Himarė
    0.05326896 Italian_Northeast
    0.05355394 Spanish_Baleares
    0.05381182 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.05426558 Albanian_Korēė
    0.05451782 Italian_Lombardy


    Some more:



    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16251
    0.02702153 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.02886532 Italian_Piedmont
    0.02909987 Italian_Tuscany
    0.02918718 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.02952803 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.02974394 Swiss_Italian
    0.03092626 Albanian_Labėria
    0.03100157 Albanian_Himarė
    0.03106432 Albanian_Pukė
    0.03124415 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.03157371 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.03237354 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03244842 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.03280549 Albanian_Dibra
    0.03361312 Italian_Umbria
    0.03361518 Albanian_Korēė
    0.03386512 French_Corsica
    0.03400007 Greek_Thessaly
    0.03427858 Italian_Veneto
    0.03503797 Italian_Marche
    0.03591488 Italian_Lazio
    0.03608747 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03822531 Greek_Messenia
    0.03823370 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.03851080 Greek_Argolis



    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14692
    0.03040623 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.03081551 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.03132625 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03134221 Swiss_Italian
    0.03137717 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03174711 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.03312290 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.03344434 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.03356377 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03375936 Italian_Veneto
    0.03379613 Greek_Thessaly
    0.03406956 Albanian_Korēė
    0.03439415 Albanian_Pukė
    0.03477466 Albanian_Dibra
    0.03490373 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03513336 Albanian_Labėria
    0.03537663 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.03684893 Albanian_Himarė
    0.03707327 Italian_Northeast
    0.03795358 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03801065 French_Corsica
    0.03826424 Greek_Central_Macedonia
    0.03886443 Italian_Umbria
    0.03958920 Greek_Macedonia
    0.03994990 Italian_Liguria


    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14690
    0.02229399 Italian_Veneto
    0.02298098 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.02688542 Italian_Northeast
    0.02729830 Italian_Piedmont
    0.02735221 Italian_Bergamo
    0.02802242 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.02846475 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.02918632 Swiss_Italian
    0.02950115 Italian_Lombardy
    0.02963871 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.02997476 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.03042430 French_Provence
    0.03162317 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.03249177 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.03252671 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.03322520 Italian_Liguria
    0.03336647 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03380439 Spanish_Baleares
    0.03394714 Albanian_Pukė
    0.03451902 Albanian_Korēė
    0.03524078 Albanian_Labėria
    0.03554151 Greek_Thessaly
    0.03564620 Albanian_Himarė
    0.03601456 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.03642084 Spanish_Menorca



    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16256
    0.04250106 Swiss_Italian
    0.04264031 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.04380569 Italian_Veneto
    0.04450226 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.04556721 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.04565211 Albanian_Dibra
    0.04606658 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.04618701 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04623457 Albanian_Pukė
    0.04649888 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.04710777 Italian_Tuscany
    0.04723999 Italian_Piedmont
    0.04746880 Italian_Northeast
    0.04757404 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.04771402 Albanian_Labėria
    0.04804920 Albanian_Korēė
    0.04834720 Albanian_Himarė
    0.04873892 French_Provence
    0.04875999 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.04920106 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04957710 Swiss_French
    0.05065795 Rumelia_East
    0.05092262 Spanish_Baleares
    0.05096698 French_Corsica
    0.05144038 Spanish_Mallorca



    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16254
    0.04732269 Italian_Bergamo
    0.04810171 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.04849878 Italian_Piedmont
    0.04853738 Italian_Veneto
    0.04992935 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.05039020 Italian_Northeast
    0.05127478 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.05138411 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.05175460 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.05206174 Swiss_Italian
    0.05208033 Italian_Lombardy
    0.05262085 Italian_Tuscany
    0.05286735 Albanian_Dibra
    0.05309711 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.05315686 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.05342267 French_Corsica
    0.05472650 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.05485039 Spanish_Baleares
    0.05513225 Albanian_Pukė
    0.05529749 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.05539984 Albanian_Korēė
    0.05550170 French_Provence
    0.05619702 Albanian_Himarė
    0.05626443 Albanian_Labėria
    0.05639041 Italian_Liguria


    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I16253
    0.03283337 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03437699 Italian_Veneto
    0.03637630 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
    0.03812178 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03864386 Italian_Northeast
    0.03933206 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03943111 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.03956018 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.03998658 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.04014912 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.04078850 French_Corsica
    0.04087147 Swiss_Italian
    0.04174371 Albanian_Dibra
    0.04240445 Albanian_Kosovo
    0.04281563 Italian_Tuscany
    0.04417635 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    0.04430015 Spanish_Baleares
    0.04434147 Albanian_Korēė
    0.04492772 Spanish_Mallorca
    0.04529686 French_Provence
    0.04552786 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.04563367 Albanian_Pukė
    0.04633452 Albanian_Labėria
    0.04649093 Greek_Thessaly
    0.04658005 Albanian_Himarė

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    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_Anc:I14688
    0.03466868 Italian_Lombardy
    0.03574003 Italian_Piedmont
    0.03720541 Italian_Tuscany
    0.03732377 Italian_Marche
    0.03881356 Italian_Bergamo
    0.03936723 Greek_Thessaly
    0.04110045 Albanian_Mirditė
    0.04119381 French_Corsica
    0.04147152 Italian_Lazio
    0.04147423 Italian_Liguria
    0.04153581 Albanian_Northwestern_Albania
    0.04201079 Italian_Umbria
    0.04201454 Albanian_Tropojė-Gjakovė
    0.04237186 Albanian_Himarė
    0.04309610 Greek_Messenia
    0.04321013 Albanian_Central_Albania
    0.04389889 Albanian_Labėria
    0.04430538 Italian_Molise
    0.04468798 Albanian_Montenegro
    0.04476998 Italian_Veneto
    0.04502914 Greek_Argolis
    0.04515023 Albanian_Pukė
    0.04523418 Greek_Arcadia
    0.04533092 Greek_West_Taygetos
    0.04533278 Italian_Abruzzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizza View Post
    Samples found in North Eastern Albania , in Kukes, near the border of Kosovo. Mostly samples that belong to Y-DNA J2b2-L283 and R1b-L23 AFAIK



    Distance to: ALB_cinamak_EBA_I14689
    2.26200081 Abazin
    2.27705781 Nogai_Dagestan
    2.42679020 Kumyk
    2.50643175 Cirkassian

    2.50839349 Kabardin
    2.54580501 Tabassaran
    2.57755846 Avar
    2.58018007 Kaitag
    2.59597530 Lezgin
    2.69214487 Tsakhur
    .
    This sample has been run wrong I think


    Distance to: ALB_Cinamak_EBA:I14689
    0.06948086 Moldovan
    0.07052045 Hungarian
    0.07209303 Austrian
    0.07256572 Croatian
    0.07259759 German_East
    0.07289054 Moldovan_o
    0.07298430 German_Erlangen
    0.07299307 Bosnian
    0.07306210 Afrikaner
    0.07309684 Ukrainian_Zakarpattia
    0.07390864 German_Hamburg
    0.07436587 Turkish_Deliorman
    0.07441320 Czech
    0.07458326 Slovenian
    0.07466194 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.07543545 Shetlandic
    0.07554799 German
    0.07608724 Serbian
    0.07668875 Ukrainian_Lviv
    0.07706948 BelgianA
    0.07707535 Dutch
    0.07736168 Scottish
    0.07766964 Orcadian
    0.07827308 Irish
    0.07853678 Montenegrin




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