How can beauty be measured if no two people look alike?

[Tooting Carmen]

Also, it has a lot to do with fads and trends, specially among anglo women, who are the most easily manipulable creatures on whole earth. And right now, fat christian white guys are at the bottom of the totem pole.

Higher up said pole compared to fat Black, MENA or Asian guys for sure.

[Petalpusher]

On a scale to ten you could rate everybody in here, on average the mean deviation would be small, 1 or 2 points at most. That would characterize tastes -besides a few that have strange ones- and the rest would conform for the most part to beauty standards. You can already see it in the rating threads, while the sample group is probably one of the weirdest possible to find when it comes to its preferences in physical appearance. General public would have even less deviations.

So yes, you can measure it objectively on average, how attractive or beautiful you are seen by others. Which is the only thing that matters.

[RogueState]

From a philosophical point of view, it's wrong to directly reject any measurement of "beauty" simply because of the naive, childish argument that it is "subjective"

First, whether you use more broad, qualitative statement ("wow she is cute, she is hot, or he is handsome, or he is ugly") or more precise "quantitative" scales (/10), it doesn't matter the form, at the end of the day, you are evaluating beauty

Therefore, everybody is being hypocrite by saying this, because precisely, we spend our entire life gauging, evaluating people's beauty, especially in the opposite sex (if you are heterosexual), because it is part of sexual partner selection for reproduction, which is a key aspect of life...

And precisely because it is a key feature of reproduction, we didn't wait 2022 to have general consensus on attractivity and on key features (like facial symmetry, square jaws for men, ...). Of course, human relationships are complex dynamics, not just depending on physical attractivity, but on "chemistry", "click", on "charisma", "personality" compatibility, wealth, social status, whatever...

For instance, already in the Upper Paleolithic, our male ancestors identified wide hips as an attractive feature for women (for fertility) and built Fertiliy Goddess mini-statutes that had big breasts, big ass and wide hips.

The fact that some men don't like these features, doesn't mean that they are not relevant, because as a general trend, these are important features for most men to measure the female attractivity (big tits, ass, wide hips = + points on 10 scale)

[Incal]

Higher up said pole compared to fat Black, MENA or Asian guys for sure.

Don't think so. A fat black man has way more chances to pull a girl than a fat white man. At least in the Anglo world.

[Tooting Carmen]

Don't think so. A fat black man has way more chances to pull a girl than a fat white man. At least in the Anglo world.

Trashy US media =/= real world.

[Incal]

Trashy US media =/= real world.

I don't watch media anymore. What I'm talking about is what I saw in Miami.

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't watch media anymore. What I'm talking about is what I saw in Miami.

Most mixed couples I came across in Miami were Latina women (of various hues) with Anglo men.

[Incal]

Most mixed couples I came across in Miami were Latina women (of various hues) with Anglo men.

You'll see pretty much anything there. What I meant is that you can see a fat black guy at the club pulling girls of any race while it's very rare to see a fat white guy doing that. So it's not true they are top on the pole.

[Richmondbread]

On a scale to ten you could rate everybody in here, on average the mean deviation would be small, 1 or 2 points at most. That would characterize tastes -besides a few that have strange ones- and the rest would conform for the most part to beauty standards. You can already see it in the rating threads, while the sample group is probably one of the weirdest possible to find when it comes to its preferences in physical appearance. General public would have even less deviations.

So yes, you can measure it objectively on average, how attractive or beautiful you are seen by others. Which is the only thing that matters.

If anything the rating threads have shown that the tastes are all over the place. I think people are drawn to what looks the most "natural"- in truth, the averageness of a face/body makes it more attractive. But it's not that they are average, but rather the most natural looking. Super obese or super thin or odd face shapes do not work overall.

[calxpal]

Good question, I think the easiest way to measure beauty between people is just how nicely they get treated by others, and how many likes they got on social media are imo are very accurate and easy measures.