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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    I know you’re stuck with G25 because you can’t use qpAdm but still the models have to be realistic. At least one of your sources should be R1aZ94 very rich because the reality is R1a is one of the major haplos for kurds. I think that’s why they have to use Scythians or Sarmatians as one source on Eurasiandna.com to modell kurds because R1a ancestors are after iron age
    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, I don't use qpAdm but my point here was to show that other user that NW Asians, Assyrians included, are not predominantly Levant-derived. He pigeonholed two completely different sets of people/ancestries under one umbrella(Iran N and LevantN) so I had to correct that assumption.

    Truth is, Levantines are, on average, quite distant to NW Asians because of big disparities in aDNA. Hell, some seem to be even closer to deep south euros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, I don't use qpAdm but my point here was to show that other user that NW Asians, Assyrians included, are not predominantly Levant-derived. He pigeonholed two completely different sets of people/ancestries under one umbrella(Iran N and LevantN) so I had to correct that assumption.

    Truth is, Levantines are, on average, quite distant to NW Asians because of big disparities in aDNA. Hell, some seem to be even closer to deep south euros.
    I know you’re one of the genuine guys here and I agree that guy is trying to make it seems like Kurds are majority levantines when the truth is no Levantines are Zoroasterian Indo Iranian speaking high R1aZ94 and J2_M410 like Kurds. Kurds are much closer to Armenians and even Assyrians because of overlap Assyrian-persian empire than to Levantines

    Realistic models involve Dinkhateoe-A or Hasanlu-IA + R1aZ94 rich Parthian,scythian or other Z94 after Iron Age Central Asian Indo Iranic to explain the high R1a in Kurdistan after the Iron Age because Southern Arc samples show virtually no R1a in kurdistan iran or Turkey in Iron Age

    Neolithic models are fine if you try to see how total enf or wg or ehg east asian a sample has
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    Whose concluding Kurds are levantines? Wtf lol

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    Neither, I choose Yeneseian Botai man. #boom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevunilla View Post
    Are you retarded? What you're saying about R1a being in Kurdistan since paleolithic times is Guti's delusions. I have repeated over and over again that Kurds don't get their R1a until Indo-Iranians/Aryans arrive and this is fairly late because NorthWest Asia was the last destination of Indo-European migrants. Sintashta and other Iranic tribes are the source of R1a and Steppe ancestry in Kurds and you have no more than 20% of it.
    ANE ancestry and R YDNA is a North Eurasian mark while Kurds are majority South Eurasian via Levant_N and Iran_N.
    First Sintashta is 4000 years old and the Parthian and Scythian and other Kurd ancestors brought R1aZ94 after the iron age so between 1000 and 2300 years ago. Maybe Sintashta is one of the ingredients of Parthians and Scythians but they are not 100% ingredients. That’s why those qpadm models fail with just hasanlu or tepe dinkha + Sintashta but they pass with hasanlu or tepe dinkha + central asian scythians

    Second levant and Anatolia n are not the same. Levant has more natufian and maybe n African. Your diagram doesn’t show levant n. Also kurds are closer to iran-n and chg than to Anatolia n

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