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    Lightbulb The cradle of Humanity is not in Africa

    the europeans are not coming from Africa! it's was i have typed recently in duckduckgo SE and the results who came for and with it, because since some times somes racist anti-white europeans and pro-BLM trotkists people want to make believe and want to make your believe if you are a white rooted european since countless generations, than the first europeans were a kind of brown-shit-skinned mutt with blue eyes toward their trotkist reading grid and their hidden agenda but indeed it's all the contrary.



    The cradle of Humanity is not in Africa according to Yves Coppens


    The theory of "African Eve" and that of "Out of Africa" can now be placed in the department of defunct ideologies, somewhere between the "class struggle" and the myth of "colonization-plunder"... European men do not come from Africa, nor do Asian men either: The scientific advances of the last 20 years have definitely twisted the neck of this myth tinged with racism and Left-wing ideology!

    Declaring to the journal Science et Avenir (n ° 772, June 2011) that "Africa is not the only cradle of modern man", Yves Coppens shatters the postulate of the exclusivity of the African origins of humanity. He also evacuates in one sentence several decades of a hallucinating scientific "skull stuffing" built around the paradigm of "Out of Africa".


    For the record, according to the latter, Homo sapiens would have come out of Africa in their modern form between minus 100,000 years and minus 60,000 years, and they would have replaced the previous populations everywhere, which makes us all Africans…

    It is by taking into account recent discoveries that Yves Coppens has radically revised his old certainties. Now, for him, neither the European modern man nor the Asian modern man are descended from the African modern man since he writes: "I do not believe that modern men arose from Africa 100,000 to 60,000 years ago (...) I think that the Homo sapiens of the Far East are the descendants of the Homo erectus of the Far East". How, moreover, would it be possible to continue to maintain that Asians have an African origin when, in a China continuously populated for 2 million years, discoveries are accumulating which highlight the transition between the so-called archaic men and the modern man of whom the current Chinese are the very likely descendants (Dong, 2008: 48). It is the same with the Europeans.
    The important archaeological discoveries that have allowed a total revision of the ancient models are not new for readers of Real Africa. In a dossier published in issue 11 of November 2010, it was thus shown that modern man, whether Asian, European or African, comes from local hominization strains that have evolved in situ.

    All over the world, we see indeed and clearly Homo erectus "sapiensizing" and giving birth to local lineages, perhaps the most distant markers of the current "races". These "sapiensizations" observable both in Asia, in Europe, in the Mediterranean world and in Africa, reduce to nothing the postulate of diffusionism in favor of the multi-regionalist hypothesis that I have been defending for many years.

    The discoveries that are accumulating, from Georgia to Spain, from China to Morocco or even from Israel to Australia and Mongolia, thus all go in the direction of hominizations independent of (or of) African hominization.

    This surge having caused the fragile dikes erected by the single thought to give way, its last defenders are reduced to juggling the facts. The famous geneticist André Langaney thus has only one poor argument left to oppose the numerous and very serious studies carried out in China since he is not afraid to write: "Oriental scientists with misplaced nationalism want with all their might that the man from Beijing or other Chinese fossils are their ancestors" (Sciences et Avenir, page 63). End of the debate!

    The Science and Future dossier is an essential step in the liberation of minds because it will affect the greatest number. Despite the inevitable ideological slags that surface here and there, and concessions supported by political correctness, its publication means that it is no longer possible to hide from the general public a truth that the specialists knew but that they carefully kept in their drawers so as not to despair the "Billancourt of Paleontology"…

    The theory of "African Eve" and that of "Out of Africa" can therefore now be placed in the department of defunct ideologies, somewhere between the "class struggle" and the myth of "colonization-plunder".

    The very recent studies on Dali's Man in China only hit the nail on the head and definitively kill the "African Eve"! They open up new hypotheses that advance science beyond all sclerosing ideologies.

    Those about the Neanderthal Man show that he was not a sub-man, but a man who had nothing to envy to modern Man coming from Africa (Read: Neanderthal painted the first frescoes 20,000 years before the arrival of modern Man in Europe)


    and another article goes beyond :

    The first men were European and not African, a controversial study claims
    By Gregory Rozières

    SCIENCE - The divergence in evolution between great apes and humans would have occurred earlier than estimated, and not in Africa but on the European continent, according to a new analysis of two hominid fossils dating back 7.2 million years unearthed in the Balkans.

    This discovery, the subject of two studies published this Monday, May 22 in the American journal PLOS One, further supports the theory that the human lineage separated from that of chimpanzees in the eastern Mediterranean basin, and not on the African continent as is generally believed. A claim that has been rejected by several paleontologists interviewed by the Washington Post.
    Yves Coppens is a French paleontologist and paleoanthropologist, professor emeritus at the Collège de France. In France, his name is attached to the discovery in 1974 of the fossil nicknamed Lucy, since he was with the American Donald Johanson and the Frenchman Maurice Taïeb one of the three co-directors of the team that unearthed it.


    Chimpanzees are the closest living cousins of humans, of which they share more than 95% of the genes. Finding the last common ancestor of the two species in evolution is the central and most debated question in paleoanthropology.

    Until then, scientists had put forward the hypothesis according to which the two lineages diverged in a period dating back from five to seven million years and that the first pre-human appeared in Africa.

    The proof by the molars

    But new analyses with sophisticated technologies of these two fossils known for several decades of hominids "Graecopithecus freybergi" have led the authors to conclude that they belong to a species of pre-human hominid.
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    On the occasion of the release of the study, the artist Velizar Simeonovski imagined what these Graecopithecus freyberg could look like.

    Using computerized tomography, a new imaging technique, this international research team was able to visualize the internal structures of the two fossils. According to their analyzes, the roots of the premolars were partly fused.

    "While in the great apes the two or three roots of the molars are clearly separated or diverge, in the Graecopithecus they converge and are partially fused, a characteristic typical in modern and ancient humans and several pre-human hominids, including the Ardipithecus and the Australopithecus," explains Madelaine Böhme, professor at the Senckenberg Center on Human Evolution at the University of Tübingen in Germany, one of the main authors of this research.

    "We were surprised by these results when the pre-human hominids known until then had only been found in sub-Saharan Africa," notes Jochen Fuss, a researcher at the University of Tübingen who conducted part of the study.

    The researchers dated the sediments of the sites in Greece and Bulgaria where the two Graecopithecus fossils were unearthed to 7.24 and 7.17 million years ago respectively. "This dating allows us to locate the separation between humans and chimpanzees in the Mediterranean region," notes David Begun.

    Specialists not convinced

    However, the analysis of these two fossils, the lower part of a jaw found in Greece and an upper premolar unearthed in Bulgaria, is not enough to convince the scientific community. The Washington Post has indeed interviewed several researchers specializing in these issues who do not agree with the conclusions of the two articles published in PLOS One.

    Jay Kelley, a paleontologist from the University of Arizona, points out that David Begun, professor of paleoanthropology at the University of Toronto, one of the main co-authors of these works, has long defended this thesis of a European origin of men. Then, according to him, our ancestors would have returned to Africa afterwards. A theory that "won few, if any adherents", specifies Jay Kelley.

    Richard Potts, another paleontologist interviewed by the daily, believes that "the main conclusion of the article goes far beyond the evidence presented". Jay Kelly agrees by asserting that the shape of the molar is not enough to classify this fossil in the hominid category. By the way, our first ancestors did not have fused molars. So it could be a mutation that has evolved independently in several different lineages.

    A climate-related discrepancy?

    But if the authors are right, how can we explain this differentiation between ape and man? Scientists note that this evolution of pre-human hominids could have resulted from environmental upheavals. The team led by Professor Böhme has also shown that the formation of the Sahara Desert dates back more than seven million years.

    "These data indicate for the first time a spread of the Sahara 7.2 million years ago when storms in the desert were already transporting the red salt dust to the northern coast of the Mediterranean, as is still the case today," explain the researchers from the University of Tübingen.

    They also determined that at this same time of the formation of the Sahara, a savannah ecosystem emerged in Europe. "This ecosystem perfectly corresponds to the fossils of giraffes, gazelles, antelopes and rhinoceroses unearthed with those of the Graecopithecus," point out these scientists.

    "The formation of a desert in North Africa more than seven million years ago and the spread of the savannah in southern Europe could have played a role in the divergence between the human lineage and that of chimpanzees," supposes Professor Böhme.
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    Then what about Y DNA and MT DNA? Why do ALL the non african ones descend from certified african ones?L3 for non african females , BT for non african men.Is It also a conspiracy? Lies?At wich impossible cost for wich nonsense reason?

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    Eurasian haplogroup GHIJK didn't left from Africa IMO.

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    Cool eight pages of interesting back-ground from a man knowing the faults of darwinism

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    The Origin of Humankind

    The Rift Valley in Africa holds the secret
    to the divergence of hominids from the great apes
    and to the emergence of human beings


    by Yves Coppens


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    Can you link the source pages!? They DO NOT EXIST! I also cannot fathom how all humans are derived from some clan in eastern Africa 200K years ago. It makes no fucking sense! Noticeable evolution takes 1 million years not less than 100K years! I do think that east Asians had other homo ancestors, different to Europeans/caucasians hence their asian look....and Aboriginals in australia remained more neanderthal admixed through the years. But it's not PC to admit this shit

    It is definitely a white-hating leftist ideology, the out of africa theory! Leftist science news always brag about Europeans being part neanderthals whilst labelling SSAs as pure homo sapiens. Okay fine, africans are purer, but why not ALSO SAY indigenous australians have more neanderthal or other non homosapien admixture that existed in southeast Asia!?? So much bias

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